Sooooo, are we like in a ceasefire, or no?
That went well.
I’m so confused. I thought there was a 2 week cease fire starting today?
Depends if you are one of Pedonald’s investment buddies.
Everything is a lie unless an Iranian official confirms it. That is the new order of things.
This post is older than the ceasefire announcement.
just like Putin does a ceasfire, then immediately attacks after, in which TRUMP gets his advice from.
- Mar 3: “We won the war.”
- Mar 7: “We defeated Iran.”
- Mar 9: “We must attack Iran.”
- Mar 9: “The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully.”
- Mar 11: “You never like to say too early you won. We won. In the first hour it was over.”
- Mar 12: “We did win, but we haven’t won completely yet.”
- Mar 13: “We won the war.”
- Mar 14: “Please help us.”
- Mar 15: “If you don’t help us, I will certainly remember it.”
- Mar 16: “Actually, we don’t need any help at all.”
- Mar 16: “I was just testing to see who’s listening to me.”
- Mar 16: “If NATO doesn’t help, they will suffer something very bad.”
- Mar 17: “We neither need nor want NATO’s help.”
- Mar 17: “I don’t need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO.”
- Mar 18: “Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz.”
- Mar 19: “US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz.”
- Mar 20: “NATO are cowards.”
- Mar 21: “The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don’t use it, we don’t need to open it.”
- Mar 22: “This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait”
- Mar 22: “Iran is Dead”
- Mar 23: “We had very good and productive talks with Iran.”
- Mar 24: “We’re making progress.”
- Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.”
- Mar 26: “Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away.”
- Mar 27: “We don’t have to be there for NATO.”
- Mar 28: No major quote
- Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing
- Mar 30: “Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences.”
- Mar 31: Claimed a deal was “very close” and that Iran would “do the right thing”
- Apr 1: “We’ll see what happens very soon.”
- Apr 2: Repeated that a deal was likely, while warning of continued strikes if not
- Apr 3: “Something big is going to happen.”
- Apr 4: Said Iran must comply “immediately” or face further consequences. “Tuesday 8 PM ET”.
- Apr 5: “Open the fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah.”
- Apr 6: “We can bomb the hell out of them”
- Apr 7: “A whole civilization will die tonight”
is this list accurate and not embellished for comedic effect?
Is he going to nuke them I wonder? What else could that final threat be?
this guy is starting to behave a lot like that putin guy
waaaaaiiit uuuuppp…
The USA is a second-world country. There are no first-world countries.
He’s the biggest fucking dumbass in the universe.
Nah, not so long as there’s someone who will believe a word he says.
“Who’s the bigger dumbass? The dumbass or the dumbass who follows him?”
I like your post. 50 years from now, high school students are going to open their US History book and read what the orange bumble fuck said during a war he started. Humiliating and perhaps the Americans might learn a lesson from the MAGA disaster.
USians need to be humbled, I say as I live here.
Americans learning true history, instead of propaganda?
Never gonna happen. When orange turd dies, there will be zero changes to your democratic system and a new pedophile controlled by billionaires will be elected.
If you think your government isn’t lying to you… I have some news
I’m talking about education and the American capitalist propaganda and brainwashing in American schools.
Did you know that in the USA about 70% of the history curriculum in schools is USA history, and only about 30% is about the rest of the world. But the USA is not even 250 years old!
Compare that with Europe, where kids spend about 30% of the time learning about their own country’s history and 70% learning other history.
Americunts don’t even realise just how brainwashed and full of capitalist propaganda they are.
Preaching to the choir. Good job ignoring what your government is lying about while doubling down on obvious common knowledge.
Considering what they are trying to do to this generations history books, I do wonder what they will contain in 50 years.
If americans could learn we wouldn’t have a 2nd trump presidency. We’re on average stupider than bart with the cupcakes.
This combination of generations is lost. Most of the age groups are either pushing for things to get worse, ignoring things that are bad or rooting on the coming apocalypse. It’ll get better when we get a few more new gens in the game, asuming it can be recovered
It’s all just inequality dressed up as something else. People are miserable here because it’s a country by and for rich people which even the rich don’t enjoy in the end. Rich people exploit that sense of misery to give us…king-size diaper donny as president twice.
Not that long ago, a single factory worker made enough to buy a small house, a car, have 2 kids and take a 2 week yearly vacation.
We’re really pumping the gas on inequity.
Adding some sources, in case people think these quotes are satirical.
Edits: some longer quotes (which takes away from the punchy format by Linken) and non-chronological groupings.
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2026-02-28 “When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take”
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2026-04-04 “48 hours before all Hell will reign [sic] down on them.”
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2026-04-06 “Every bridge in Iran […] every power plant […] I mean complete demolition by 12 o’clock”
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2026-04-07 “A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again.”
Thank you! I copied the comment from elsewhere, I appreciate your additions!
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Apr 8: TACO!
(I hope)
That’s the thing I was wondering about the TACO meme. Is it good to mock him on chickening out when it is best for everybody that he does chicken out?
In that case, we should reinforce good behaviour by praising him:
Trump Admirably Chickened Out
It’s always a good idea to mock him. If he can’t handle it he is free to resign.
Does it matter? I think he doesn’t even touch the internet anymore and just has an assistant posting for him
On the contrary, I think everyone in the White House keeps feeding him pleasant lies and what’s why he can go out in public and say all that BS
He did TACO!
I’m taking the bet that he’s going to fold faster than Superman on laundry day.
Beautiful. Thanks for compiling this.
From that, he does seem to have been getting a lot more agitated over the past week. We’ll see how that translates into actions.
I can’t take credit I copy/pasted- but everyone should see it!
- Apr 7: “I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks”-
I swear we live in the dumbest timeline. Can we switch back to pre-Covid timeline before Trump?
That… was Trump too.youre looking for pre 2017.
Honestly Trump 2017-2019 doesn’t even seem that bad anymore…
That’s why covid was so bad.
Oh dear God, the fact that such a statement can be made…
Imagine if, in 2019, you got a flash-forward to that statement. I wonder what terrors your imagination would conjour up, and whether they’d be better or worse than reality.
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And now he says they agreed to a cease fire and reopen the Strait.
Out of curiosity I checked out how Fox News is covering this shit show. Totally fucking unhinged is an understatement. He could livestream eating a baby and they’d be praising his bold nutritional choices.
It’s wild. Meanwhile, other mainstream media channels are accused of leftist propaganda by these deranged lunatics, simply for reporting the facts.
Dude at work randomly walked up and said Iran is gonna be a nice parking lot. Like I’ve known you two weeks and my toolbox is covered in socialist stickers, either you can’t read or you’re real real fuckin dense.
in the trades? its fillled with conservatives
you should show him your tool box. really closely, and at high speed.
funny is that most of the MSM are owned by right wing conservatives, they are more or less the same. fox, OAN, NEWSMAX is just pure propaganda.
That’s because it was said on the TV that means we have to listen and follow what it says cus only correct things get said on the colored box ya here /s
World Wide Web was a great experiment while it lasted. Wouldn’t be surprised if we ended up losing a W and getting cut off from good fun things like Steam.
Woke Wide Web
So, hey, Americans, your president is openly threatening genocide. You might uh, want to do something about that. Just a thought.
“Americans”
They voted him into office, this is what “Americans” want
Yes, a gerrymandered FPTP election with no primary is a fair expression of voter’s earnest preferences. Great point. It’s not like a quarter of them didn’t vote, or the fucker only won by a thin margin of the popular vote. It’s not as if these policies are so unpopular that Gallup stopped even reporting how unhappy everyone is. You can always conflate state violence with national identity! Of course, you fucking junkyard dog.
Then revolt and kill the people in power. It’s what you should be doing if you didnt vote for him.
Other guy says I have to go to therapy and learn to stay calm first, sorry
you fucking junkyard dog
Lmao you need anger management
Open to suggestions.
I don’t think any of y’all know how well protected this asshole is
“I want to make everything possible to stop this government- as long as it doesn’t make me involved in anything “ “I live too far from everything to do anything “ “Our politics doesn’t work that way, you don’t understand that” “We are the land of free and all the guns and something “
Seriously, there seems to be this delusion that we all just have magic buttons that execute our politicians on a whim. What the fuck do you expect us to do, specifically, to fix this?
Gather as a mob and attack until they are dead. Nothing less. That’s what I expect of you.
You wrote exactly that delusion into your constitution. The only reason you still have guns after everybody else realised they were bad was so that you could use them to overthrow some mythical tyrannical government.
Now the tyrannical government is here. Use your guns you love so much. Overthrow it.
In pretty much every other western country, the populace could reasonably exert force over their national armed forces because those armed forces are reasonably sized. But the entire active duty military of Germany has fewer personnel than the on-base population of a single US military base (JBLM 210k, Germany 185k), and JBLM is only the 4th largest base in the US…
Not to mention, our military budget is more than the GDP of 85% of the countries in the world, and it’s only getting bigger. The proposed budget for next year is more than 90% of the world’s countries’ GDP. Think about that for a few minutes.
Dude the USA just de facto surrendered to Iran.
I don’t think those ludicrous amounts of money that corporations embezzle via the military is at all representative of it’s quality.
A military is only as good as its leaders, which means right now, ours is complete and utter shit, as we’re seeing.
You say as if American soldiers aren’t also Americans. It’s not just up to civilians to partake in politics and the resistance of tyranny.
Coups happen all over the world, for various reasons. You’d think an openly genocidal regime headed by a fascist, paedophile, moronic traitor, actively making life worse for the majority and aiding their enemies. Shitting on the constitution, and making veiled threats to cancel elections, would be enough to instigate one, but I guess not.
The stereotype of American soldiers seems to hold up, all bark but no bite unless the opponent is clearly outmatched with bigger weapons.
By one estimate, there were 457 coup attempts from 1950 to 2010, half of which were successful.[3]
I’ll accept my share of the blame for not being an active insurgent against the US government as long as we’re also holding Russian and Chinese people to the same standard - failing to thwart genocide(s) by a powerful authoritarian regime while under 21st century surveillance and brutal working conditions. Sure I’m disappointed in all of us who aren’t part of a resistance, but let’s be realistic.
Alright, let’s be realistic, a lot of competent high ranking officers are out of work since the purges of Trump. And a lot are still in work, that managed to survive the purges.
And when I say purges, I mean redundancies and firings. Not like Saddam Hussein, taken out back and met with a bullet or rope. But just given their military pension and told to fuck off.
I’m not expecting the average grunt to be able to do much. But an officer whose rank allows them the command of hundreds or thousands of people is capable of something.
There has been not even a murmuring of mutiny, resistance, or rebellion, let alone a coup. Some sailors stuffed t-shirts down their toilets, likely more in rebellion at being at sea far longer than they were meant to than anything else. But that’s about it.
Americans, until very very recently, have had freedoms and liberties that the Chinese and Russians have never enjoyed. Do you think Russian military courts are comparable to American? To compare them is disingenuous. Although in saying that, Xu Qinxian did refuse his orders at Tiannamen Square. He refused saying he’d rather be executed than be a criminal to history.
But there’s always an exceptionalism, an excuse, for why America is incapable of thwarting fascism. No matter how much I argue here, somebody will come along with another excuse, another reason for why Americans can’t do what other countries around the world have done over and over throughout history.
Land of the
BraveBollocks.I’m going to be honest: you just sound ignorant and disconnected from the reality of the United States as a politically entity.
Exception and exceptional share a root word. They do not mean the same thing.
You say that but months ago when he was threatening to invade Canada, as a Canadian I thought “if I sneak up and kill just one of these invading fuckers before I gwt popped I will have done my duty” im just a regular guy but I feel that in my gut and I know A LOT of us do.
But you guys don’t have that sense of survival for some reason. You just shrug and go “I don’t wanna get a boo boo or miss project runway” you’re being invaded right now, your citizens are being murdered by federal invading forces and you are doing nothing but fighting among yourselves about who is the true leftist.
For me, it is more that I have a partner whom I love with every fiber of my being and a 5 yr old that is my whole universe. My family needs me. It’s not so black and white as you make it. I work all the time to make sure we have money to barely get by.
I will say, if a “rebellion” starts and we actually have a working “army” I’d gladly be apart of it… But just going out and starting shit? I’m sorry I can’t. I can spread the word, I can tell everyone about what’s going on and do my best to make sure the people in my town know what a monster he is.
Sometimes it feels like y’all think we Americans all live the same lives and have the same problems. That just not true. They have is hogtied and pinned down. How do I go and fight when fighting means my family will suffer?
That’s how I feel. I’ve got three small kids and a handicapped wife. Getting myself killed or arrested isn’t an option. When there’s a tipping point, I’ll be on the right side of it. If there’s a way to get to that tipping point faster, I’ll do that too. But sacrificing myself and my family just so I can tell some internet tough guys that political ideals were more important to me than my ethical ideals? That’s dumb.
Mate, I imagine we’ve all thought that, but there’s a big gap between thinking it and doing it, and from where I’m sitting it appears you’re the exact kind of internet tough guy you’re speaking out against.
Wow, you fantasized about killing someone? That basically makes you a war hero. You truly earned this: 🎖️
o7
Sorry, where are you getting your news from?
Based on this topic, I’m quite certain that he primarily receives his news from his butthole.
oh, anything short of killing ourselves at the government will not be enough for the freaks on this website.
Yes. Do it.
Anything but site there on a keyboard fighting with other leftists about who is the true leftists
It’s mind boggling to me there have been no riots by this point.
If that’s mind boggling then you really need to read an actual history book.
Life for the avg America is FAR from problematic enough to have riots start yet. Even our worse off tend to have just enough care from other Americans to be upset but content. We are taking care of our down trodden just enough.
You need starvation, active destress, or wide spread unemployment.
We have food it’s just expensive.
We arnt in active physical danger.
We have just enough jobs that groups of people arnt massing together.
End of the day the very same message of help your fellow man, do good in your community and decades of social safety nets put into place. Are doing their job of allowing the American people to coast by happy enough.
If you want riots then you need to start making people physically miserable, scared and hungry.
You’re not wrong about the conditions that historically lead to unrest, material desperation, fear, and breakdown of basic stability tend to be the tipping points. The U.S. government isn’t there for most citizens, and that’s not accidental.
But what’s worth pointing out is that this “just stable enough” environment didn’t emerge naturally, it’s been actively managed over decades. And a strong case can be made that this is less about general governance and more about a long-term political strategy, particularly on the Republican side.
You’ve had a pattern where social safety nets are publicly criticized, underfunded, or slowly eroded but rarely eliminated outright. Why? Because removing them completely would create exactly the kind of instability you’re describing. Instead, they’re kept barely functional. Enough to prevent collapse, not enough to meaningfully improve mobility or reduce inequality.
At the same time, there’s been consistent resistance to policies that would shift people from “barely stable” to genuinely secure, things like stronger labor protections, universal healthcare, or aggressive wage growth. That keeps a large portion of the population economically stressed, but not desperate enough to unify or revolt. It fragments people using base animal instincts, keeps them focused on short-term survival, and limits collective action.
Add in cultural and political polarization, and it further diffuses pressure. People incorrectly channel frustration horizontally, at each other, instead of vertically at faceless institutions.
So yes, you’re right about the threshold for unrest. The uncomfortable part is recognizing that a lot of political strategy has been about keeping the country just below that threshold, stable enough to barely function, and strained enough to control.
It’s understandable that not everyone wants to riot for moral values and against mass corruption, but surely everyone can see that it’s just a matter of time before distress comes to the USA if nothing is done right now? It’s pretty naive to assume that your new enemies won’t hit back in some way, and most of the world just wants the US to become a meaningless country, since everyone is sick of the constant abuse of power and its negative effects on the world economy and stability. To join riots right now is the least the American people can do. Throughout American history it was often needed for the many to fight the elite and that time has come again.
We arnt in active physical danger.
You arent in percieved active physical danger.
If trump launches a nuke boy that sure will change lickity split tho
Wait for the military draft and the fucking MAGAts will be the first ones to cry.
Didn’t Americans decide that dead kids in schools was an acceptable price for the right to own guns, specifically so you can overthrow your government when needed?
You guys aren’t even striking yet. You’re just gonna allow this to happen. You guys elected him again, after it became clear he was a paedophilic capitalist working for the elite. America is lost.
The gun fetishists who don’t care about dead kids are the ones who voted for Trump. The ones who give a shit amd don’t want to come within 10 feet of a gun didn’t vote for him.
I’m so tired of the EU people paroting this. It’s ALWAYS been the crazy MAGA who love God and guns. It’s ALWAYS Democrats pushing for regulation.
If a majority of the country voted for him, then how is the minority supposed to overthrow both the gun sickos and the government? Nepal’s riota only succeeded because all of their young population was in agreeance that their government was corrupt. I can’t even get former friends to get off their ass to vote. A riot only works if enough people are backing it.
We would get fucking swiss cheesed in literal seconds by a police department let alone the military. It’d be a suicide mission. And at the end of the day Trump would still be kicking it and making fucking posts about the protesters and MAGAs mixed dead bodies. I hate MAGA conservatives, but I don’t want to kill them because I can understand that at the end of the day the person in power has no fucking skin in the game. We can shoot ourselves bloody all day, but Trump and his croonies will live just fine.
The January capitol riot only ended in little rioter casualties because they were white men and the administration wanted it to happen. This current admin has been insane from day one and would gladly open fire on protesters.
And even if we did kill him, there’s still a chain of succession? We killing the VP and the entire cabinet too? Nevermind the MAGA nuts that would run jnto the streets and start killing any minority or democrat in sight? These sickos threatened to bomb HBCUs after watching Charlie Kirk get shot and he was literally killed by a fellow Republican nutjob. They don’t need a good reason to get angry. Furthermore, who says violent overthrow will guarantee a better government? If you gained enough power to overthrow a government, who says the next won’t abuse it too? And once again more blood spills of those who aren’t calling the shots.
I love being constantly told on this site to go be a suicide shooter. I love everyone assuming we’re gun nuts. I love everyone assuming we all wanted this. I voted, I protest, I contact my reps, I tell my friends to vote, I boycott, I do as much as I can. But if I’m not out there threatening to bomb the White House and kill all Republican representatives then it’s worthless.
Anyway, we have a national strike coming up on May 1st. Minnesota already had a strike in January.
Simultaneous angry mobs outside the white house and mar-a-lago could be nice. I would come out from California to join that.
Work together with independents and disenfranchised republicans to primary 75+% of the democratic party over the next 4 years.
The GOP and the DNC are the sword and shield of the wealthy elites respectively.
Not a short term solution, but the best time to plant a tree is 10 years ago. 2nd best time is today.
Who supports him?
Who supports them?
I think the application of pressure goes where its possible to apply it, instead of where it isn’t.
Go find the richest person in your local city.
You have one, they exist. Probably several in the same area.
Make it their problem.
especially since the whoopsie that one time
Then what was the point of all that 2nd amendment talk? Was it all bullshit cause you wanted to keep your pow pow?
Guns and no balls, Thats what’s so dangerous about the regular American.
Like I said elsewhere, your country was won by fat farmers and regular people who grew balls.
Jesus tap dancing Christ, man… It’s an illusion to make people believe they’ll always have the power to stand up. It clearly works, considering you’re quoting it and blaming the average citizens fighting back and going unnoticed because you couldn’t find the time to realize they’re trying to barely scrape by themselves. Blame the leaders who have a face, not the average citizen who’s actually protesting. Not everyone can light themselves on fire in public protests to appease you.
It was always bullshit the joke used to be they would be helpless and guns useless against a corrupt government. And as we learned it was always projection they want to be the corrupt government.
Everyone’s to broke to travel and it takes 8 hours to drive across Nebraska
Insurrection?
Can you plan and execute an insurrection in less than 24 hours?
Most people couldn’t even get to DC with less than a weeks notice.
“we can’t do it in 24 hours, so we are not gonna do it at all” - that’s a new one
Funny (but not in a good way) reading all the different kinds of excuses Americunts come up with to justify their inaction when their officially elected corrupt fascist pedophile president threatens to wipe out an entire nation in a genocide.
I bet you also don’t have the time because you need to go to work, right? This one excuse was used quite often.
you need to go to work
As a side note, the usaian culture about work observed through internets is just… absolutely bonkers. Everyone is constantly complaining how terrible their jobs are, how they suck them dry emotionally, physically, financially - yet even if nukes were flying they’d probably still just meekly say they gotta go to work
We didn’t get up when we found out he was a pedophile. That ship kinda sailed.
Never to late to bail.
Stephen universe knows that lesson, so can the Americans.
Someone may have replied with this already, but: https://stoptrumpswars.org/ we’re trying.
Proud of you, keep pushing!
They just filed articles of impeachment - so that’s something…
https://www.congress.gov/119/bills/hres1155/BILLS-119hres1155ih.pdf
Its been proven that the impeachment doesn’t do shit. Infact the last time we impeached our president he was allowed to run and be elected again.
Unanimously supported or is it again an isolated democrat move? Asking because it’s kindof annoying to let USA delete a whole civilization…
We’ll see ¯_(ツ)_/¯
And it’ll go just like last time, every Republican closes ranks and it wastes everyone’s time
You know they are too pussy ass about it, but you know freedum!
The US has been openly genociding trans people within its borders and no one cares. People turned out for Palestine and Venezuela to the extent that the state allowed them to, but have been seemingly silent on Cuba. Genocide is as American as the Kardashians.
To be clear, I’m not talking about politically savvy users on Lemmy. You’re not the problem. The problem is the “white moderate” that MLK talked about in his letter. The problem is the apoliticals who complain about having to take the scenic route to Starbucks because of protesters on the streets. It’s the so-called “adults” who treat politics like an optional sport. It’s the people who have never heard of AIPAC, and who act surprised to learn that the US is at war. Those people need a good wake up slap.
The cultists are too far gone, the only hope for them to rejoin civilized society is literal cult deprogramming
Look, I agree with every one of your other points, but to say that “the US has been openly genociding trans people” is ludicrously stupid. Yes, some of the states are making anti-bathroom laws, and some of the states are making laws about not allowing medical/therapeutic support to minors for transitioning, and the federal government is making anti-trans executive orders about colleges… but genocide? Seriously?
Don’t water down the use of the word genocide. It’s a very serious thing that is currently happening and supported by the US, but that is not what is happening with trans people. Yet. It might happen with the way things are going, but not yet.
Most people on here gave Jewish pundits shit for calling 700 Jewish deaths in the October attack another “holocaust” and “genocide.” We give those same people shit for not calling 70,000 Palestinian deaths a genocide. Don’t be like those people.
Trans people being effectively legislated out of existence and the Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention has issued three red flag alerts, but go on about how it’s not a genocide
the Lemkin Institute believes that the United States is squarely within the early to middle stages of a genocidal process against trans people, the goal of which is to completely erase transgender people not only from public life but also from existence in the U.S. and globally
I urge anyone skimming by to the article I linked, if you have 5 minutes. It’s actually a pretty good read. I’ll also note that this is why I fled the US when I had the chance
I would take them seriously but their mobile site is a shit spam of donation ads and unuseable.
Seems like a shit company that’s just trying to profit off good messaging from where I’m sitting.
Pretty great example of good message ruined by greed.
There’s literally one window with a large X in the top right. NPR and Wikipedia do the same thing. But here, I copied the first three paragraphs for you so you don’t have an excuse.
The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention and Human Security is releasing this third Red Flag Alert for the USA related to the Trump Administration’s anti-trans initiatives, which have continued to expand nationwide since our last Red Flag Alert (RFA) on this subject. Over the eight months since the second RFA’s publication, the Republican Party’s anti-trans agenda has radicalized and continued to intensify. 2025 was the sixth consecutive record-breaking year for the number of anti-trans bills considered across the country. There was a 45 percent increase in bills between 2024 and 2025. Between 2021 and 2025, the number of bills in consideration has increased by 668 percent.
The Administration has moved from identifying transgender people as a threat to the family and to the nation’s military prowess to claiming that transgender people constitute a cosmic threat to the spiritual health of the nation and the greatest direct threat to U.S. national security in the world. Given these ideological developments, especially coupled with the increasingly hostile and draconian legislation against trans identities, the Lemkin Institute believes that the United States is squarely within the early to middle stages of a genocidal process against trans people, the goal of which is to completely erase transgender people not only from public life but also from existence in the U.S. and globally.
Genocide against trans people takes on patterns that set it apart from the mass murder genocides that people commonly associate with the crime, such as the Holocaust. Currently, the genocide against trans people follows a pattern – denial of identity (pattern #9 in the Lemkin Institute’s Ten Patterns of Genocide) – that makes it more familiar to the colonial genocides against indigenous populations, including the residential/boarding school systems in North America and Australia, where indigenous children were “allowed” to go on living if they gave up their identities, including their languages. Denial of identity involves two main steps: preventing people from openly expressing an identity and destroying institutions that reproduce the identity. Given that the denial of identity is the consequence of a well-defined hostility, even hatred, for the identity, the pattern is often characterized by incitement against the group. Alongside suppression and incitement, perpetrators of this pattern of genocide will simultaneously criminalize the identity, so that expressions of it or institutions that reproduce it become characterized as threatening and corrosive to the body politic and warranting state violence and coercion. People who assert or support the denied identity then become criminal elements that must be eliminated. In the case of the boarding schools, children who used their mother tongue or otherwise showed signs of their independent identity were severely punished.
Our demented puppet President has powerful people propping him up. Would be mighty helpful if Germans did something about Thiel, and South Africans did something about Musk. Australians, you good with handling Murdoch? Okay, let’s go.
They all live in the US though. Not much any other country can do about them.
Why not? They’re all still citizens of their home countries, and sometimes even physically present there.
I dont want to sound like I’m piling on with encouragement to violence, but its pretty wild to me that we have a handful of specific names.
Most if not all of us lack the resources and opportunity to do anything direct.
we lack resources and opportunity
What? That’s another new excuse.
If anything you have THE MOST resources and opportunities.
You have 340 million people, you have guns and you are rich.
Countries with much much less resources and opportunities overthrew their corrupt government.
You are just full of shit and excuses.
Which authoritative body has the power to do something about it, that isn’t openly in cahoots with him? I’ll wait.
The people have all the authority. The people are the country, and all agencies are there to serve the people. The people are the highest authority. The people should fix the problem, since it’s the people who voted in the corrupt fascist pedophile into power.
The NRA would probably be the best equipped. They bring their own authority.
The NRA embezzled themselves into irrelevance half a decade ago - they’re not a meaningful political entity anymore.
They are bootlickers though
Even the local traffic cops have enough firepower to take down a village; the farce of a 2nd amendment does nothing against real tyranny, it’s just for meatheads to injure themselves or their loved ones and oppress minorities when they get scared. I’m in California; all my votes go blue and are meaningless on the national scale. No amount of standing in front of buildings or blocking roads will make a dent in the capitol overlords that own the levers of accountability.
What a defeatist mentality you have. You lost before you even tried to fight. Americunts and their excuses never cease to amaze me.
Well it’s good you acknowledge all the things you cant do.
What about the things you can?
What do you suggest? I take pretty extreme “voting with your dollars” positions that have excluded me from a ton of social and family things. I have protested, taken days off work, marched, signed petitions. I’ve donated to progressive politicians, I’ve talked about what’s going on to apathetic people to the point where they don’t talk to me much anymore or ask to stop talking politics. Everything I’ve voted for has pretty much passed, and my representatives do the right things for the most part. I actively participate in a local network of people connecting resources to protect immigrants by hosting some services on my self-hosted network for people to organize on (I have personally sponsored meshtastic communicators and provided access to an anti-ice private channel).
I’m pretty tired of doing what feels like a huge amount of effort, only to be told I should be doing something different or more. I fought so hard against the right, that the flanking snark attacks from the left and the implication that I’m somehow complicit by not doing enough or the right thing are driving me towards apathy. I’m fucking exhausted.
but they didn’t vote for the genocidal kamala.
how could this have happened???
Edit: really? It was not clear enough that this is sarcasm?
U.S. government policy has not even closely reflected the will of the people since 1980, at the latest. Instead, the Overton Window kept moving right, and ever-more neoliberal, until we got to a point at which our only choices were between a grifter with populist energy, and a candidate offering a clearance-bin version of the “HOPE” that turned out to be more neoliberal ratfucking back when an effective salesman had pitched it to us.
And, no surprise, tons of people checked out of a political process which offered no meaningful response to their day-to-day life of getting economically ratfucked, because it just drained their energy for no discernable benefit.
So… you asked.
Ok, the first thing you guys need to do is shut the fuck up about Kamala. Nobody outside the US cares that you’re mad at the people who didn’t vote for Kamala because of Gaza. It’s in the past. The snark makes you feel good but is 100% pointless.
I’m outside the US and am mad
Iran has been calling his bluff at every point. Not surprising.
Hilarious to see. Would be great if it didn’t ruin everything while being hilarious though.
Republicans had a choice. They chose to make things worse. They can’t complain about laughing out of frustration or dark humor. Not after decades of sabotaging America so they could finally control USA.
Republicans had a whole bunch of choices. They still have a lot of choices. They keep choosing to do the stupid and/or evil choice. I’ll be laughing at them and what happens to Americans for years or decades.
I’m more concerned about the rest of the world having to deal with the consequences of moronic republican decisions.
I’m more concerned about the rest of the world having to deal with the consequences of moronic republican decisions.
This is the worst part of it. I didn’t vote for that moronic child fucker. I can’t even vote in that shithole because I don’t live there. Yet, I’m getting fucked, and roughly, because of them.
But hey, ‘don’t go “all americans” because some of them didn’t vote for him’. Well fuck you! You didn’t vote for him, but what about us? Getting screwed by someone who’s not even in our continent just because he fucked kids and don’t want to go to jail for it?
Oh but don’t you know Kamala Harris wasn’t a good enough candidate so some Americans couldn’t bring themselves to vote for her.
Fuck those guys even more than MAGA.
Absolutely. Anyone who was eligible to vote in the US that didn’t vote for Kamala Harris come the general election is part of the reason we have Trump. These are objective facts at this point.
“But Gaza!”, “both sides”, “NeoLiberals”, etc. are all flimsy excuses.
You want progressives to have a chance of winning? Make the Republican Party lose so badly that they aren’t contenders ever again. Now you can start to differentiate within the Democrat party to get some true progressives.
Nah, it’s worse. Every voter that didn’t vote in those elections just said: “I’m ok with both candidates”. They have decided that choosing Harris or PedoHitler was the same thing. Is not that she wasn’t “good enough”, it’s that they said she was AS GOOD AS PEDOHITLER.
Some of them are still at it. A mere mention of choosing between lesser evil and they come in calling us ‘genocide supporters’.
Two things can be bad.
Yeah I’m getting a bit tired of the “I didn’t vote for him” thing from Americans. I understand that they didn’t but from the outside, I can’t really start singling out people, so as a result I blame America as a whole. They should have fixed their system decades ago, but they didn’t care enough.
I sympathize for all the anti-trump Americans… but they are doing as much as the Republicans are doing, to remove him. Which is fuck all. Going on a parade on a Saturday once in two months doesn’t count as doing something, no matter how “historically large” it was.
I wasn’t even old enough to vote against him the first time he ran. I did my best to convince all my historically conservative Republican family to not vote for him, however the propaganda they consume is too strong to get to them. My mother has been watching Fox News chronically since 1997 when it first aired. By 2016, she’d been consuming that propaganda straight for damn near 20 years!!!
Yeah that sucks and all but its still up to you and your fellow citizens to fix this shit, since your political class wont do anything, except encourage the orange cunt.
The problem is the vast majority of Americans can’t monetarily afford to protest because of the style of capitalism here. It forces us to work or be homeless/healthcareless. Only thing that will force change is either a fair election (ain’t going to happen), some sort of coup, or country-wide strike (would be one I would like to participate in).
The tipping point hasn’t arrived yet.
Why don’t you be a little more honest here? You can’t write “I’ll be laughing at what happens to Americans for a long time” and then also say you feel for us. You’re victim blaming. We are entirely fucked and there are no good options. And honestly, no matter where you live you’re going to have negative consequences from this too, no matter what. Even if it just slightly nudges your country to the right, or some other neighboring country, it will impact you.
So I’m glad you’re laughing that so many millions of people are suffering. Thanks for that. It’s so helpful to not only my mental health to read shit like this, it totally inspires me to just go out and fix it all. No problem. Be done by mid day tomorrow!
I’ll be having multiple different feelings about all this. I’ll be laughing at the stupidity, the inability to get together. I’ll be sympathizing for the innocents who get eaten by the machine. I’ll be despairing because its plunging the whole world into chaos. I’ll also be laughing about the chaos because I’m a miserable misanthrope asshole.
I’m a miserable misanthrope asshole.
I guess at least you know it, but that doesn’t materially improve anything for the people who have to endure you.
If the victim does nothing when it’s in their power to do something then the victim is infact at fault.
The American people arnt powerless. We have proven that by killing off presidents before.
We have proven that though rallies that moved the entire country to actual action before.
We have proven that by coming together and going to war with ourselves before.
The fact nothing is happening this time in fact. Makes us all at fault me included. The only correct view for an outsider is to victim blame.
Because WE ARE at fault.
No.
They can’t complain
Unfortunately, they can and will.
They need to clutch pearls at every chance they get to show how ‘evil’ the left is so they can villainize them easier.
The reality is that the more the regime fucks up, the sooner it becomes a lame duck and the less damage it can do. Something, something, darkest before dawn, only way out is through etc.
At this point unless he actually mans up and follows though with his words, just ignoring him entirely from day 1 is the only correct action.
The fact Iran even entertained him this long is the only reason he has power at all. Countries need to start just ignoring him entirely.
The fact Iran even entertained him this long is the only reason he has power at all.
That, and the colossal firepower of the US military.
Yup. Shut him out. That’s the only thing he’ll understand. Once everyone starts ignoring him and doing deals amongst themself, he will shit his pants again and start whining about being left out. Then everyone needs to ignore him some more.
“we don’t negotiate with terrorists”
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Imagine not being able to negotiate internally
Americans if this is not the time for second amendment I don’t fucking know what it. This is Munich 1938, it’s now or deal with a king and a world war where you guys are the Nazis.
The opposition has been infighting and soon you’ll all be silenced too. Before Germany invaded Europe, they stamped out any dissent within their borders first. Throwing the growing list of undesirable in camps without due process.
It’s not like this is already happening in America is it? 🤔 But really Americans how much more do you need? And don’t just throw your arms up in the air and dodge blame while you sit on your couch watching Netflix.
Your country was won by fat farmers and every profession in between when they realized it was UNITE OR DIE
I have multiple guns, I live 3,000 miles from DC, I own them mostly to shoot at bears who come near me, what do you suggest I do?
Stay away from gay night clubs
Organising with others is a good first step
Well I’m well on my way to step two then it’s so frustrating to see people tell me I just need to shoot things/people though
Some kind of large gathering of likeminded people, perhaps? That could be workable…
Too much effort for an American. No one is paying them enough to skip a day of work.
Sarcasm:
Think of the starving shareholders!
They managed it on Jan 6 a few years ago
IDK, the protests do seem to be pretty well attended, despite the apparent effort required…
But who do we shoot. Like really?
What do I do ?
It sounds plausible on paper but just not possible in real life to do anything. With or without a gun.
They didnt invade all of Europe.
No one in their right mind talks with a lunatic.
By acting crazy and threatening people, dj appears to have made up his own mind long ago.
This could be a blessing in disguise. He called Biden a retard on Monday. He’s now upped the threats a notch.
Could be he got some very bad health news from Walter Reed medical over the weekend.
Don’t give me hope.
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The US had a perfectly good nuclear deal with Iran, but Trump chose to rip it up nine years ago because it had Obama’s name on it.
Should come to no surprise that Iran don’t want to end this crisis diplomatically with the same guy who stabbed them in the back just to spite the Democrats…
Trump sparked anger and concern around the globe on Tuesday morning with his post, which read, “A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have Complete and Total Regime Change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen, WHO KNOWS? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the World. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death, will finally end. God Bless the Great People of Iran!”
I’ve not read the full wording of his Truth Social post until now, but why does it read like he’s trying to cut a wrestling promo?
I mean his description of the US airman rescue operation in yesterday’s press conference where he called the Iranian army a “hostile, very talented, very good, very evil military” was giving me Danhausen vibes…
If he plays his cards right, he might end up winning the WWE Peace Prize.
Did you misspel WW3? 🤭
The US had a perfectly good deal. Israel didn’t. If the deal had stayed in place, the Iranian econony would have roughly doubled by now. That’s a lot more resources that could stay in Israel’s way of expanding into Lebanon for example.
The deal benefited Israel as well… what are you talking about!?
What the deal did not include was: praise for the orange pedophile and/or distraction for his crimes or Bibi’s
Did an edit to add that before I saw your reply. Don’t buy what Israel tells you about how they love the Iranian people. Consider Israel’s material interests.
E: Also it’s fairly public fact that Israel lobbied against the deal and following it lobbied for repeal.
Consider Israel’s material interests.
Hmmmm how about no… Israel had a chance but decided to become the new Nazis… they can go fuck themselves back to the stone age for all I care
“consider” as in “you won’t understand why Israel does what it does unless you think about”, it doesn’t mean “give them what they want”
yes, I understood… but again, this is the slippery slope where “the best move” is justified regardless how heartless and immoral it may be
My point is I do not care what Israel had to win by this. This is wrong and they should pay dearly for their crimes against humanity
I only meant for analysis sake 😅
Yes but this is the slippery slope that can justify any and all atrocities…
There is a difference between “justify” and “explain.” He’s not saying what happened is OK, he’s explaining why some people were motivated to ruin what most purple thought of as a good thing.
Tbh, it sounds too coherent to be him.
Yeah there’s countless of instances of his posts containing words he would never use or know their meaning
He’s a shitting, screaming, spoiled child having a temper tantrum. Oh, he also has access to the nuke codes. Nothing to worry about. /s
Well if the nukes fly tonight I hope there’s at least a few that refuse the orders
Fine, tomorrow then. Just enough time to replace the insubordinate.
Huh. Weird. Turns out when you show a demented willingness to cause mass genocide, people might get the impression that negotiations aren’t really an option anymore.
Who would’ve thought the art of the deal is just black mailing?
The Art of the Deal: Letting your fragile self be easily manipulated into getting nothing that you wanted.
