In pretty much every other western country, the populace could reasonably exert force over their national armed forces because those armed forces are reasonably sized. But the entire active duty military of Germany has fewer personnel than the on-base population of a single US military base (JBLM 210k, Germany 185k), and JBLM is only the 4th largest base in the US…
Not to mention, our military budget is more than the GDP of 85% of the countries in the world, and it’s only getting bigger. The proposed budget for next year is more than 90% of the world’s countries’ GDP. Think about that for a few minutes.
You say as if American soldiers aren’t also Americans. It’s not just up to civilians to partake in politics and the resistance of tyranny.
Coups happen all over the world, for various reasons. You’d think an openly genocidal regime headed by a fascist, paedophile, moronic traitor, actively making life worse for the majority and aiding their enemies. Shitting on the constitution, and making veiled threats to cancel elections, would be enough to instigate one, but I guess not.
The stereotype of American soldiers seems to hold up, all bark but no bite unless the opponent is clearly outmatched with bigger weapons.
By one estimate, there were 457 coup attempts from 1950 to 2010, half of which were successful.[3]
I’ll accept my share of the blame for not being an active insurgent against the US government as long as we’re also holding Russian and Chinese people to the same standard - failing to thwart genocide(s) by a powerful authoritarian regime while under 21st century surveillance and brutal working conditions. Sure I’m disappointed in all of us who aren’t part of a resistance, but let’s be realistic.
Alright, let’s be realistic, a lot of competent high ranking officers are out of work since the purges of Trump. And a lot are still in work, that managed to survive the purges.
And when I say purges, I mean redundancies and firings. Not like Saddam Hussein, taken out back and met with a bullet or rope. But just given their military pension and told to fuck off.
I’m not expecting the average grunt to be able to do much. But an officer whose rank allows them the command of hundreds or thousands of people is capable of something.
There has been not even a murmuring of mutiny, resistance, or rebellion, let alone a coup. Some sailors stuffed t-shirts down their toilets, likely more in rebellion at being at sea far longer than they were meant to than anything else. But that’s about it.
Americans, until very very recently, have had freedoms and liberties that the Chinese and Russians have never enjoyed. Do you think Russian military courts are comparable to American? To compare them is disingenuous. Although in saying that, Xu Qinxian did refuse his orders at Tiannamen Square. He refused saying he’d rather be executed than be a criminal to history.
But there’s always an exceptionalism, an excuse, for why America is incapable of thwarting fascism. No matter how much I argue here, somebody will come along with another excuse, another reason for why Americans can’t do what other countries around the world have done over and over throughout history.
Ah, I see the confusion. I’m used to the modern critical definition, not the original.
Exceptionalism as “exemptionalism”
During the George W. Bush administration (2001–2009), the term was somewhat abstracted from its historical context.[104] Proponents and opponents alike began using it to describe a phenomenon wherein certain political interests view the United States as being “above” or an “exception” to the law, specifically the law of nations.[105] (That phenomenon is less concerned with justifying American uniqueness than with asserting its immunity to international law.) Critics argued that American exceptionalism was increasingly used to justify foreign policy decisions that placed the United States “above international law.” This perspective claimed that the U.S. invoked exceptionalism not as a model of global leadership but as a rationale for unilateralism and selective application of legal norms.[106]
The new use of the term has served to confuse the topic and muddy the waters since its unilateralist emphasis and the actual orientation diverge somewhat from prior uses of the phrase.
You say that but months ago when he was threatening to invade Canada, as a Canadian I thought “if I sneak up and kill just one of these invading fuckers before I gwt popped I will have done my duty” im just a regular guy but I feel that in my gut and I know A LOT of us do.
But you guys don’t have that sense of survival for some reason. You just shrug and go “I don’t wanna get a boo boo or miss project runway” you’re being invaded right now, your citizens are being murdered by federal invading forces and you are doing nothing but fighting among yourselves about who is the true leftist.
For me, it is more that I have a partner whom I love with every fiber of my being and a 5 yr old that is my whole universe. My family needs me.
It’s not so black and white as you make it. I work all the time to make sure we have money to barely get by.
I will say, if a “rebellion” starts and we actually have a working “army” I’d gladly be apart of it…
But just going out and starting shit? I’m sorry I can’t. I can spread the word, I can tell everyone about what’s going on and do my best to make sure the people in my town know what a monster he is.
Sometimes it feels like y’all think we Americans all live the same lives and have the same problems. That just not true. They have is hogtied and pinned down. How do I go and fight when fighting means my family will suffer?
That’s how I feel. I’ve got three small kids and a handicapped wife. Getting myself killed or arrested isn’t an option. When there’s a tipping point, I’ll be on the right side of it. If there’s a way to get to that tipping point faster, I’ll do that too. But sacrificing myself and my family just so I can tell some internet tough guys that political ideals were more important to me than my ethical ideals? That’s dumb.
Mate, I imagine we’ve all thought that, but there’s a big gap between thinking it and doing it, and from where I’m sitting it appears you’re the exact kind of internet tough guy you’re speaking out against.
In pretty much every other western country, the populace could reasonably exert force over their national armed forces because those armed forces are reasonably sized. But the entire active duty military of Germany has fewer personnel than the on-base population of a single US military base (JBLM 210k, Germany 185k), and JBLM is only the 4th largest base in the US…
Not to mention, our military budget is more than the GDP of 85% of the countries in the world, and it’s only getting bigger. The proposed budget for next year is more than 90% of the world’s countries’ GDP. Think about that for a few minutes.
Dude the USA just de facto surrendered to Iran.
I don’t think those ludicrous amounts of money that corporations embezzle via the military is at all representative of it’s quality.
A military is only as good as its leaders, which means right now, ours is complete and utter shit, as we’re seeing.
You say as if American soldiers aren’t also Americans. It’s not just up to civilians to partake in politics and the resistance of tyranny.
Coups happen all over the world, for various reasons. You’d think an openly genocidal regime headed by a fascist, paedophile, moronic traitor, actively making life worse for the majority and aiding their enemies. Shitting on the constitution, and making veiled threats to cancel elections, would be enough to instigate one, but I guess not.
The stereotype of American soldiers seems to hold up, all bark but no bite unless the opponent is clearly outmatched with bigger weapons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d'état
I’ll accept my share of the blame for not being an active insurgent against the US government as long as we’re also holding Russian and Chinese people to the same standard - failing to thwart genocide(s) by a powerful authoritarian regime while under 21st century surveillance and brutal working conditions. Sure I’m disappointed in all of us who aren’t part of a resistance, but let’s be realistic.
Alright, let’s be realistic, a lot of competent high ranking officers are out of work since the purges of Trump. And a lot are still in work, that managed to survive the purges.
And when I say purges, I mean redundancies and firings. Not like Saddam Hussein, taken out back and met with a bullet or rope. But just given their military pension and told to fuck off.
I’m not expecting the average grunt to be able to do much. But an officer whose rank allows them the command of hundreds or thousands of people is capable of something.
There has been not even a murmuring of mutiny, resistance, or rebellion, let alone a coup. Some sailors stuffed t-shirts down their toilets, likely more in rebellion at being at sea far longer than they were meant to than anything else. But that’s about it.
Americans, until very very recently, have had freedoms and liberties that the Chinese and Russians have never enjoyed. Do you think Russian military courts are comparable to American? To compare them is disingenuous. Although in saying that, Xu Qinxian did refuse his orders at Tiannamen Square. He refused saying he’d rather be executed than be a criminal to history.
But there’s always an exceptionalism, an excuse, for why America is incapable of thwarting fascism. No matter how much I argue here, somebody will come along with another excuse, another reason for why Americans can’t do what other countries around the world have done over and over throughout history.
Land of the
BraveBollocks.I’m going to be honest: you just sound ignorant and disconnected from the reality of the United States as a politically entity.
Exception and exceptional share a root word. They do not mean the same thing.
Exceptionalism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism
I’m well aware of the term. I’m telling you, you’re misapplying it in your argument.
Ah, I see the confusion. I’m used to the modern critical definition, not the original.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism#Criticism
You say that but months ago when he was threatening to invade Canada, as a Canadian I thought “if I sneak up and kill just one of these invading fuckers before I gwt popped I will have done my duty” im just a regular guy but I feel that in my gut and I know A LOT of us do.
But you guys don’t have that sense of survival for some reason. You just shrug and go “I don’t wanna get a boo boo or miss project runway” you’re being invaded right now, your citizens are being murdered by federal invading forces and you are doing nothing but fighting among yourselves about who is the true leftist.
For me, it is more that I have a partner whom I love with every fiber of my being and a 5 yr old that is my whole universe. My family needs me. It’s not so black and white as you make it. I work all the time to make sure we have money to barely get by.
I will say, if a “rebellion” starts and we actually have a working “army” I’d gladly be apart of it… But just going out and starting shit? I’m sorry I can’t. I can spread the word, I can tell everyone about what’s going on and do my best to make sure the people in my town know what a monster he is.
Sometimes it feels like y’all think we Americans all live the same lives and have the same problems. That just not true. They have is hogtied and pinned down. How do I go and fight when fighting means my family will suffer?
That’s how I feel. I’ve got three small kids and a handicapped wife. Getting myself killed or arrested isn’t an option. When there’s a tipping point, I’ll be on the right side of it. If there’s a way to get to that tipping point faster, I’ll do that too. But sacrificing myself and my family just so I can tell some internet tough guys that political ideals were more important to me than my ethical ideals? That’s dumb.
Mate, I imagine we’ve all thought that, but there’s a big gap between thinking it and doing it, and from where I’m sitting it appears you’re the exact kind of internet tough guy you’re speaking out against.
Wow, you fantasized about killing someone? That basically makes you a war hero. You truly earned this: 🎖️
o7
Sorry, where are you getting your news from?
Based on this topic, I’m quite certain that he primarily receives his news from his butthole.