Yeah I’m getting a bit tired of the “I didn’t vote for him” thing from Americans. I understand that they didn’t but from the outside, I can’t really start singling out people, so as a result I blame America as a whole. They should have fixed their system decades ago, but they didn’t care enough.
I sympathize for all the anti-trump Americans… but they are doing as much as the Republicans are doing, to remove him. Which is fuck all. Going on a parade on a Saturday once in two months doesn’t count as doing something, no matter how “historically large” it was.
I wasn’t even old enough to vote against him the first time he ran. I did my best to convince all my historically conservative Republican family to not vote for him, however the propaganda they consume is too strong to get to them. My mother has been watching Fox News chronically since 1997 when it first aired. By 2016, she’d been consuming that propaganda straight for damn near 20 years!!!
Yeah that sucks and all but its still up to you and your fellow citizens to fix this shit, since your political class wont do anything, except encourage the orange cunt.
The problem is the vast majority of Americans can’t monetarily afford to protest because of the style of capitalism here. It forces us to work or be homeless/healthcareless. Only thing that will force change is either a fair election (ain’t going to happen), some sort of coup, or country-wide strike (would be one I would like to participate in).
But I was told Americans are so much richer than us Europoors!
Jokes aside… Theres options. You guys could like organize and stuff. Pool some money to have a security net in case someone gets fired. Work together with employers. Do some logistics and realize not everyone needs to be out protesting every day. One group protests on monday, another group on a tuesday, etc.
Saying “we can’t afford to protest” is just giving up. Nobody said it will be easy. And nobody is suggesting that the people who have 7 children to feed or a crippling medical problems, should be the ones protesting…
Protests are happening nearly daily, but they don’t always make the news and frequently aren’t covered extensively. It’s not in the best interest of “news” organizations to focus on such things right now.
Even social media coverage of these things are localized and not prioritized on algorithms.
These things are happening. People are participating in the political process that is available to them where they can.
Could we do more? Certainly. The international criticism is valid and many Americans feel your frustration and share it. Just know that the current political atmosphere took decades to establish and much of that work involved, if not outright criminalizing protest, framing them in such a way that reduces their visibility and overall impact, specifically in regards to their voter base. There is no “national conversation” like there was when there were 5 major TV stations and some assumed or even enforced journalistic integrity (however naive that may have been at the time). Now we are in a splintered information landscape that gives people the sense that they are contributing by interacting within their bubbles with little to no actual influence or conversations happening between people who disagree that might be able to find common ground and pool their efforts. Instead, when those groups finally contact each other they are yelling slogans at each other, not coming together to work towards a solution and how to move forward.
Unfortunately our best path forward is the same slow grind that is the election cycle and finding ways to get through to those who don’t want to believe they were mislead.
High gas prices are probably the most effective way to snap people out of those bubbles, if only for a moment.
The largest issue is us Americans are hyper individualistic and hate working together in the way you describe. Just ain’t going to happen here unless the culture changes.
Why don’t you be a little more honest here? You can’t write “I’ll be laughing at what happens to Americans for a long time” and then also say you feel for us. You’re victim blaming. We are entirely fucked and there are no good options. And honestly, no matter where you live you’re going to have negative consequences from this too, no matter what. Even if it just slightly nudges your country to the right, or some other neighboring country, it will impact you.
So I’m glad you’re laughing that so many millions of people are suffering. Thanks for that. It’s so helpful to not only my mental health to read shit like this, it totally inspires me to just go out and fix it all. No problem. Be done by mid day tomorrow!
I’ll be having multiple different feelings about all this. I’ll be laughing at the stupidity, the inability to get together. I’ll be sympathizing for the innocents who get eaten by the machine. I’ll be despairing because its plunging the whole world into chaos. I’ll also be laughing about the chaos because I’m a miserable misanthrope asshole.
Yeah I’m getting a bit tired of the “I didn’t vote for him” thing from Americans. I understand that they didn’t but from the outside, I can’t really start singling out people, so as a result I blame America as a whole. They should have fixed their system decades ago, but they didn’t care enough.
I sympathize for all the anti-trump Americans… but they are doing as much as the Republicans are doing, to remove him. Which is fuck all. Going on a parade on a Saturday once in two months doesn’t count as doing something, no matter how “historically large” it was.
I wasn’t even old enough to vote against him the first time he ran. I did my best to convince all my historically conservative Republican family to not vote for him, however the propaganda they consume is too strong to get to them. My mother has been watching Fox News chronically since 1997 when it first aired. By 2016, she’d been consuming that propaganda straight for damn near 20 years!!!
Yeah that sucks and all but its still up to you and your fellow citizens to fix this shit, since your political class wont do anything, except encourage the orange cunt.
The problem is the vast majority of Americans can’t monetarily afford to protest because of the style of capitalism here. It forces us to work or be homeless/healthcareless. Only thing that will force change is either a fair election (ain’t going to happen), some sort of coup, or country-wide strike (would be one I would like to participate in).
But I was told Americans are so much richer than us Europoors!
Jokes aside… Theres options. You guys could like organize and stuff. Pool some money to have a security net in case someone gets fired. Work together with employers. Do some logistics and realize not everyone needs to be out protesting every day. One group protests on monday, another group on a tuesday, etc.
Saying “we can’t afford to protest” is just giving up. Nobody said it will be easy. And nobody is suggesting that the people who have 7 children to feed or a crippling medical problems, should be the ones protesting…
Protests are happening nearly daily, but they don’t always make the news and frequently aren’t covered extensively. It’s not in the best interest of “news” organizations to focus on such things right now.
Even social media coverage of these things are localized and not prioritized on algorithms.
These things are happening. People are participating in the political process that is available to them where they can.
Could we do more? Certainly. The international criticism is valid and many Americans feel your frustration and share it. Just know that the current political atmosphere took decades to establish and much of that work involved, if not outright criminalizing protest, framing them in such a way that reduces their visibility and overall impact, specifically in regards to their voter base. There is no “national conversation” like there was when there were 5 major TV stations and some assumed or even enforced journalistic integrity (however naive that may have been at the time). Now we are in a splintered information landscape that gives people the sense that they are contributing by interacting within their bubbles with little to no actual influence or conversations happening between people who disagree that might be able to find common ground and pool their efforts. Instead, when those groups finally contact each other they are yelling slogans at each other, not coming together to work towards a solution and how to move forward.
Unfortunately our best path forward is the same slow grind that is the election cycle and finding ways to get through to those who don’t want to believe they were mislead.
High gas prices are probably the most effective way to snap people out of those bubbles, if only for a moment.
The largest issue is us Americans are hyper individualistic and hate working together in the way you describe. Just ain’t going to happen here unless the culture changes.
Yeah I know. I don’t have any hope for you guys :D
What a piece of fucking shit
Yup, I agree, trump is pretty awful.
The tipping point hasn’t arrived yet.
If you mean the “people are actually starving” tipping point, sure, that hasn’t arrived yet.
But the 21st century tipping point flew past ages ago.
Why don’t you be a little more honest here? You can’t write “I’ll be laughing at what happens to Americans for a long time” and then also say you feel for us. You’re victim blaming. We are entirely fucked and there are no good options. And honestly, no matter where you live you’re going to have negative consequences from this too, no matter what. Even if it just slightly nudges your country to the right, or some other neighboring country, it will impact you.
So I’m glad you’re laughing that so many millions of people are suffering. Thanks for that. It’s so helpful to not only my mental health to read shit like this, it totally inspires me to just go out and fix it all. No problem. Be done by mid day tomorrow!
I’ll be having multiple different feelings about all this. I’ll be laughing at the stupidity, the inability to get together. I’ll be sympathizing for the innocents who get eaten by the machine. I’ll be despairing because its plunging the whole world into chaos. I’ll also be laughing about the chaos because I’m a miserable misanthrope asshole.
I guess at least you know it, but that doesn’t materially improve anything for the people who have to endure you.
Nobody has to endure me, the block function is right there :)
Needs to be hard coded into the API for your account
If the victim does nothing when it’s in their power to do something then the victim is infact at fault.
The American people arnt powerless. We have proven that by killing off presidents before.
We have proven that though rallies that moved the entire country to actual action before.
We have proven that by coming together and going to war with ourselves before.
The fact nothing is happening this time in fact. Makes us all at fault me included. The only correct view for an outsider is to victim blame.
Because WE ARE at fault.
No.