Guy on Left Side of the Ship: “Well, I just don’t feel bad for the people on the right side of the ship”
Guy on the Right Side of the Ship: “I’m going to make this thing so much more leaky! You haven’t seen how leaky I’m going to make it.”
I love watching people get what they deserve. But I worry we’ve created a world where its not possible to change your stance on something or admit you were wrong. Like something from the Art of War that says you shouldn’t surround your enemy completely or they will fight harder since escape isn’t an option. Even if you don’t intend for them to escape, merely thinking they can wont cause them to fight as hard.
I mean yeah but the dude rapes children so he needs to be in prison. The ideal answer would have been for his parents to have raised him better but that ship sailed a long time ago.
Art of War is a little inapplicable here because in that book, there’s an assumption the enemy isn’t out to destroy the whole world, but trump really has no qualms about destroying everything if that’s what it takes for him to keep his freedom despite his horrific crimes.
This, unfortunately, is the Truth of the situation.
I’ll say: it really seems like that call is coming from inside the house. Lots of former conservatives can get by in leftist spaces by just not being a conservative when asked about their opinions. If you can laugh at who you used to be you can absolutely be a reformed conservative. Maybe you have to be a few years removed from who you used to be but I’ve seen it, I know people who have gone through exactly that and they’re as left as anyone now. Mostly because being a leftist means engaging with and being in the normal world.
But if you’re in a conservative environment even the smallest dissent can be seen as fully treasonous. It spirals into hysteria and we see how conservatives have to live in an alternate reality to stay in the in-group.
But they are not admitting they where wrong… They are complaining Trump didn’t deliver them the riches they where promised.
They are still bigoted assholes.
There are definitely those people, along with ones who were actively harmed by Trump when they thought he would only hurt minorities or whatever.
But I think there’s people out there who only vote R cuz their parents do and they’re in a small conservative town in the country.
If people flip from R to D its like a x2 effect. Not only are R’s getting less votes but D’s are getting more. Idk. Maybe everyone is already set in their ways or will switch on their own eventually.
I worry we’ve created a world where its not possible to change your stance on something or admit you were wrong.
Are you kidding? It is comically easy to just change sides, announce you have always believed everything about the side your own, and begin heckling the people on the original side by calling them idiots and assholes. Just roll up another account. Or be Tucker Carlson.
Nobody will care, so long as your caustic remarks and smug self-aggrandizement and self-pitying doomerism jerks your audience off the right way.
Like something from the Art of War that says you shouldn’t surround your enemy completely or they will fight harder since escape isn’t an option.
The problem isn’t that Liberals have somehow backed Conservatives into a corner. The problem is that Conservatives effectively make up a Liberal to be afraid of and regularly sell their voter base on being terrified of the Dark Brandon Ultra-Left Anarcho-Chinese Muslim Tankie hiding behind the milquetoast corporate centrist who agrees with them on 90% of public policy.
When you’ve built a fantasy world for your voters to live in, the best way to keep them there is to tell a bunch of horror stories about what’s outside the echo chamber.
Im not saying liberals have literally backed maga into a corner with no escape. It was just an analogy.
And are you kidding? Are you seeing maga declare themselves liberal in droves? There’s supposed to be a “blue wave” coming for midterms so I guess we’ll wait and see. But if there is a blue wave id think it’s because maga are upset and not going out to support trump, not that they’ve all become liberals.
Im not saying liberals have literally backed maga into a corner with no escape.
I agree. If anything, they’ve done the opposite. The MAGA crowd has received every out, second chance, and pardon legally possible.
Are you seeing maga declare themselves liberal in droves?
Plenty of #NeverTrump Republicans have been piling in to the Liberal Party for over a decade. Then they show up and complain that the party has too many liberals in it.
But if there is a blue wave id think it’s because maga are upset and not going out to support trump, not that they’ve all become liberals.
Years when Trump isn’t on the ballot tend to see depressed GOP turnout.
He also said once committed to an act there is no turning back.
Yeah… for the most part they just double down. You can point out the war in Iran that they supposedly didn’t want, the deficits they supposedly wanted to reduce, the prices that they thought would go down with tariffs somehow, and they will just say that doesn’t matter because the Democrats were going to turn their boys into girls.
Do keep in mind that Trump still enjoys something like 90+% approval among Republicans. Some people remain convinced that they like turd soup.
it’s dipped these days to “only” 81-82%. Which is a big drop, but still way too damn high. Propoganda is crazy.
The supposed “independents” are where his numbers truly cratered. Basically drove his entire approval rating since Democratic approval started at like… 6%.
That just means that people stop identifying as Republicans if they don’t like Trump, because he’s the image of the Republican party.
Hasnt he lost completely mexican male voters and young male voters?
Hahahaha, no. Two thirds of Latino Trymp voters still approve.
Its white supremacy - There are plenty that don’t regret theur choices because they are either still unaffected because they are closer to the white supremacist ideal (affluent, non marginilized white men) or think they will soon become those men (temporarily embarrassed non marginilized white men that aren’t afluent) or they think they are the exception to the rule (tokenized minorities and white women, gay white me, etc who are only tokenized as long as they are useful).
I wish we could raise white people’s class consciousness and sense of solidarity with all working people
Millions of black and latino voters choose Trump. Latinos tipped the scale away from Democrats.
But there is a long bizarre history of immigrant groups immediately shitting on other immigrants.
Because Democrats don’t give a shit about working class people, and use marginalized people as tokens. “You’ll vote for us because Republicans actively hate you.” Seriously the amount of contempt Democrats seem to have for their own base is alarming.
So Latino voters vote on other things, like abortion. Being mostly Catholic this tends to split that group up. Moreso because the DNC refuses to support down ballot Democrats that don’t go hard for abortion.
It’s cuz those people got theirs and now they want to close the gate, same as the current cons, theyre to dumb to realized that once they do get that wish, they’ll be the next group of people the cons will focus on getting rid off since current day concurvatism exclusicly focus on exclusion. I don’t like a shitload of foreigners migrating out into a country like what happened here in canada during Justin’s reign just so they can cover cheap labor and exclude younger workers but it’s stupid for them to think they won’t be persecuted by people like this and can’t understand that these people aren’t concervatives, theyre fascists.
The USA has been kicking the ball forward on a cohesive immigration plan for decades, Democrats did nothing to address that.
Turd Soup or Shit Smoothie is the choice.
I think the republicans being obstinate and stonewalling at every conceivable avenue might have had an effect.
No one in either camp came up with a comprehensive plan to formally set guidelines for immigration, targets, quotas, etc . It was a mess because no one dealt with it.
I don’t think you’re giving Obama enough credit here
While he failed to get a comprehensive immigration reform law passed, he took important steps toward protecting DREAMERs and focusing enforcement priorities.
DACA provides protection from deportation and work authorization to certain undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children. In the last few years, DACA has proven successful for the 740,000 individuals who benefitted from the initiative.
One of the first steps the Obama administration took toward changing enforcement priorities came with the elimination of large worksite raids, which had been widely used during the Bush administration. In contrast to large raids, Obama emphasized investigating and penalizing employers. Early changes were also made to the priorities of the Fugitive Operations Program, which had been apprehending “the easiest targets, not the most dangerous fugitives.”
Compared to the current administration being overtly racist (Calling all Mexican immigrants drug mules, saying that Haitians are eating cats and dogs), while upping ICE budgets so they can chase after people without any criminal history…
I’d say the choice is obvious.
High percentages of Latino voters, yes, but not high percentages of black voters.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voting-patterns-in-the-2024-election/
anything over 0% is high.
“Trump nearly doubled his support among Black voters between 2020 and 2024”
anything over 0% is high
Agreed
As to your second point, double jack shit is two jack shits. I’m not saying that no black people voted for trump. I’m disputing the point you made refuting that white supremacy was the reason we have trump.
It was 100% white supremacy, and saying ‘well, Black people did it too’ is a magat talking point.
The fact that latinos helped greatly, does not make it any less motivated by white supremacy, except from an American white racist’s standpoint. Plenty of people not considered white by American white supremacists still consider themselves white, especially in central and South America.
I agree with a lot of what you said but the fact is 46% of Latino voters chose trump too. The fact is the billionaire owed propaganda machine is very effective at keeping us divided and distracted
There are definitely non-white white supremacists…
The Dave Chappelle skit and Uncle Rukus were telling a hard truth along with trying to be funny.
I ordered the TURD SOUP and all I got was TURD in my SOUP! I HATE eating Turds! It’s INHUMANE to eat TURDS! Would DEFINITELY Order Turd Soup AGAIN!
-LITERALLY Republican Voters!
How were they supposed to know there were turds in it?? There were NO indications!
I was talking to someone and they said “oh man this person Trump worked with turned out to be an evil scammer. So did this person. And these 20 other people. And also Jeffery Epstein.” I’m like huh wow he must just be really unlucky then! No other explanation!
Y’all got any more of that Turd soup?
Half was ok with turd soup as long as liberals got turd soup too. Owning the libs was priority. The other half thought they were ordering turd soup for the others and not them, and then were surprised when everyone gets turd soup.
That’s a shitty way to get any change
If you voted for Trump and you realize it was a mistake, that’s OK. People make mistakes and what is important is that you realize it was a mistake and don’t do it again in the future
Welcome to the Democratic party, I’m glad to have you with us
He’s criticizing them for making a mistake, realizing it was a mistake and being angry about it, then making the mistake again. Many out of contempt.
Of course there are people who make mistakes, but Trump’s poor-people base is, at its core, temporarily embarrassed millionaires. They voted for him to take away from others hoping that the savings would be spent directly on their social causes.
It’s hard to feel sympathy for Trump voters in general, but certainly there are some specific Trump voters who might deserve sympathy.
Just as some people are raised racist, homophobic, etc. but change their tune once they actually meet some POC, LGBT people, etc., there will be people out there who have just absorbed general vibes of “Republicans = good economy, Democrats = bad economy” from everyone in their lives and never experienced anything that made them question it. Some people are well-intentioned, but… really dumb and oblivious.
I try to feel sympathy when I can. Like 90% of my generation was raised to believe homosexuality was immoral and gay marriage was wrong and that was how I felt. That changed when I grew up and I’ve spent 30 years fighting for gay rights.
But the reason I don’t feel sympathy in this case is that Trump represents NOTHING about how Southern Conservative Christians were raising their kids. He’s the living embodiment of everything the church claims to be against. He’s a New York elitist pedophile billionaire the “regular hard-working folk” should despise. There’s nothing redeeming about him AT ALL.
I get the impression he’s torn on abortion laws - because he gets an erection thinking about killing innocent babies but doesn’t like the idea of women having ownership of their own bodies.
Also they ordered it for the whole restaurant and assumed all the turds would be in other people’s bowls.
As a non-American, it’s like sitting in a regular restaurant trying to have lunch but the entire place stinks like shit from the Turd Soup Restaurant down the street.
And that turd soup restaurant sends unsolicited free samples to Venezuelan and Iranian restaurants in the neighborhood and the people working at the Iranian restaurant see it and throw up all over a narrow section of sidewalk that’s the only way in and out of the area.
Then they wrote a review: “Turds in my soup! I was told they would only be in brown people’s soup! Please do something about this! This is still my favorite restaurant though, would definitely eat again.”
mmmm, turds 🤤
“I mean, I know I’m brown, but it’s supposed to be in the other brown people’s soup.”
Oh yeah, that too. “But I voted Republican for years and always pointed at people poorer & browner than me! You can’t deport me!”
edit: sorry, lost the restaurant critic role there.
And then looked at the rest of us shocked about the turds and asked us why sleepy Joe made us all collectively do it.
Very well put.
…icky, too. 😜
Then they blame the turd in the soup on the democrats and lefties. Meanwhile the turd brags how people are eating his shit up.
It’s the standard “my enemies are so unbelievably stupid that they can’t do anything correctly and are utterly incompetent, but also they are smart enough that they are sabotaging us at every corner in ways so sophisticated no one can prevent it.” Somehow this actually works long term…
And then they asked for the turd soup for a third time!
Turd soup…as American as apple diarrhea pie…
And think turd soup should be the default appetizer for everyone
I have sympathy for Trump voters in the same way that I have sympathy for the mentally handicapped.
That being said, I don’t hate the mentally handicapped people. I do hate MAGA.
Love Colbert, amazing guy. But he is mistaken… Elon Musk hacked the election in key states for Trump.
I am not an American and I know my opinion is worthless but Elon Musk is a giant piece of shit that should be (word that starts with “exe” and ends with a very nice “cuted”)
My guy, you’re giving Elon way too much credit and the United States citizens not enough.
Donald Trump is the president we deserve and definitely the president we voted in. Un-fucking-fortunately.
Even if there were skullduggery, which I don’t doubt myself, the statement is still the same. They ignored the warnings it was turd soup first time, got it, hated it, but tried to order it a second time thinking it’d be better. We got milquetoast instead and they then wanted the soup AGAIN and now are complaining about it again.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity
Exe…cutive branch won’t let him be prose…cuted.
Please, let’s not start “elections are rigged” on the other side of the spectrum as well.
But they are rigged. Its called gerrymandering and Electoral College.
It makes a lot of sense to rig the elections. It would be more shocking to discover the elections haven’t been rigged this whole time and our government really is a chaotic mess that somehow functions.
And they’ll all just say it’s the Democrats’ fault, then bring in another red wave this November.
