• LLMhater1312@piefed.social
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    13 hours ago

    Its white supremacy - There are plenty that don’t regret theur choices because they are either still unaffected because they are closer to the white supremacist ideal (affluent, non marginilized white men) or think they will soon become those men (temporarily embarrassed non marginilized white men that aren’t afluent) or they think they are the exception to the rule (tokenized minorities and white women, gay white me, etc who are only tokenized as long as they are useful).

    I wish we could raise white people’s class consciousness and sense of solidarity with all working people

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      12 hours ago

      Millions of black and latino voters choose Trump. Latinos tipped the scale away from Democrats.

      But there is a long bizarre history of immigrant groups immediately shitting on other immigrants.

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        Because Democrats don’t give a shit about working class people, and use marginalized people as tokens. “You’ll vote for us because Republicans actively hate you.” Seriously the amount of contempt Democrats seem to have for their own base is alarming.

        So Latino voters vote on other things, like abortion. Being mostly Catholic this tends to split that group up. Moreso because the DNC refuses to support down ballot Democrats that don’t go hard for abortion.

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        It’s cuz those people got theirs and now they want to close the gate, same as the current cons, theyre to dumb to realized that once they do get that wish, they’ll be the next group of people the cons will focus on getting rid off since current day concurvatism exclusicly focus on exclusion. I don’t like a shitload of foreigners migrating out into a country like what happened here in canada during Justin’s reign just so they can cover cheap labor and exclude younger workers but it’s stupid for them to think they won’t be persecuted by people like this and can’t understand that these people aren’t concervatives, theyre fascists.

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          11 hours ago

          The USA has been kicking the ball forward on a cohesive immigration plan for decades, Democrats did nothing to address that.

          Turd Soup or Shit Smoothie is the choice.

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            10 hours ago

            I think the republicans being obstinate and stonewalling at every conceivable avenue might have had an effect.

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              9 hours ago

              No one in either camp came up with a comprehensive plan to formally set guidelines for immigration, targets, quotas, etc . It was a mess because no one dealt with it.

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                I don’t think you’re giving Obama enough credit here

                While he failed to get a comprehensive immigration reform law passed, he took important steps toward protecting DREAMERs and focusing enforcement priorities.

                DACA provides protection from deportation and work authorization to certain undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children. In the last few years, DACA has proven successful for the 740,000 individuals who benefitted from the initiative.

                One of the first steps the Obama administration took toward changing enforcement priorities came with the elimination of large worksite raids, which had been widely used during the Bush administration. In contrast to large raids, Obama emphasized investigating and penalizing employers. Early changes were also made to the priorities of the Fugitive Operations Program, which had been apprehending “the easiest targets, not the most dangerous fugitives.”

                Compared to the current administration being overtly racist (Calling all Mexican immigrants drug mules, saying that Haitians are eating cats and dogs), while upping ICE budgets so they can chase after people without any criminal history

                I’d say the choice is obvious.

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          9 hours ago

          anything over 0% is high.

          “Trump nearly doubled his support among Black voters between 2020 and 2024”

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            anything over 0% is high

            Agreed

            As to your second point, double jack shit is two jack shits. I’m not saying that no black people voted for trump. I’m disputing the point you made refuting that white supremacy was the reason we have trump.

            It was 100% white supremacy, and saying ‘well, Black people did it too’ is a magat talking point.

            The fact that latinos helped greatly, does not make it any less motivated by white supremacy, except from an American white racist’s standpoint. Plenty of people not considered white by American white supremacists still consider themselves white, especially in central and South America.

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      13 hours ago

      I agree with a lot of what you said but the fact is 46% of Latino voters chose trump too. The fact is the billionaire owed propaganda machine is very effective at keeping us divided and distracted