I know a guy who is three of these things. Goes to the gym 6 days a week, works in a hospital, starting a business, has a wife and a kid, and he still manages to have time to hang out once or twice a week. Man is as successful as I am not
As someone who is some of those things as well, I would love to know what the wife and/or child are doing during all those activities. Because something has to give when you’re doing that much.
In my experience, that balance is really hard, and even in the most hospitable, high-quality-of-life places, that balance is not exactly always something that is nurtured and valued by the systems in place.
I think he really is just built different. I’m good friends with both parents, and knew his wife long before he did. Both of them are working on higher education, kid goes to daycare most days every week. It’s not like he never sees his son either. Usually when I hang out, we’re watching his boy while we play BG3, which is nice because he can just walk away for a minute whenever a diaper needs changed
Having recieved a large sum of life insurance money after his father passed away certainly helped with the house buying and the car maintaining and the education pursuing, but his time management is pure skill
I tell people that I told my ROTC cadre that my nonexistent sister got me pregnant and that’s why I stare at goats now, which is a fancy way to say I do counterintelligence, and everyone disappears from my perspective.
A distinct lack of “drugs/degeneracy” category
I think that’s a subset of “disappeared”. If you followed up on the people who disappeared, it’s a coin flip as to whether they just hate people or have fallen on hard times.
Drugs / Degeneracy can fall into all 4 of these categories?
You think that workaholic doesn’t need a little help? That trainer, a boost? While the e family takes some to forget how stressful it is to works multiple full-time jobs.
yeah I feel severely underrepresented
Do some drugs, you’ll feel better.
Bottom half. You will never hear about my triumphs. They’re mine only.
Mine either.
I’m proudly in the “obsessed with work” category (organizing working class unions)
Proud member of the bottom right. Oddly, it has made me a big topic of conversation among my friends, and I don’t get that at all.
How do you know this if you’ve disappeared? There are people like this in my life that no one has heard from in 20 years. Now that’s hardcore.
Meh, I’m not hardcore, I just don’t have social media and I don’t do weddings, birthdays, or anything involving children, so I pretty much just meet up with them at shows these days.
How are they in your life if you haven’t heard from them in 20 years?
They’re in his basement. Nobody else has heard of them.
Ok bad choice of words.They used to be in my life.
Now they’re dead in your basement.
This could be funny if it wasn’t such a sad outlook on life.
At least you can pretend to Excel at something
Word.
Powerful Point.
Windows puns run out, Lemmy know.
Drugs
I’m certain I fall into bottom right as the category but I can’t tell where in the quadrant I’d put the dot that indicates that I’m actively still on the internet and available to be found but I’ve dedicated an unreasonable amount of time to avoiding the modern digital culture in lieu of a mock attempt to recapture the late 2000s digital experience. Hit me up in that chatroom or text me on my flip phone, you’ll find me by my handle it’s the same on every platform.
Possibly because, in your case, they moved to a geographical region less actively hostile to their non-binary personality, but people continuïng their outgoing Renaissance Fair / Swordfighting / Theater / Convention polycule life is a category for me.
No, I must disagree. Most of my friends are right in the centre. Many are starting families, but are also working on careers and are well intentioned gym goers who I speak to less and less because life is too busy.
How the fuck does anyone have the energy for all that?
Discipline. Basically.
Discipline, also known as ignoring basic needs until one burns out with a whole bunch of different outcomes from addictions to suicide
Healthy outlook you’ve got there…
They don’t do all equally well, and none are done above average.
I don’t have an answer for that. You just do what you have to do.
This is my experience, as well. It sounds like I’m a few years older than you, but almost everyone in my larger friend group is/was doing all of these things, particularly so if the bottom left is just “intensely focused on some new niche hobby.”
Yeah I was about to say - I’m all of these things. I feel like that’s pretty common.
I am totally on the bottom right group.
My people
Our numbers are uncountable
Obsessed with work is the most obnoxious type of person. It’s a validation seeking behavior that I find intolerable.
Counterpoint, the best way to organize unions is to become obsessed with everything happening within your workplace
I am not sure I’ve ever met a labor organizer but I’ve definitely met vest guy who just wants to talk about his job and if I try and change the subject a bit they ask me about my job…
Bonus points if they start telling a story with names from their work as if I know them.
We do the best we can with what we know at the time. We’re products of our parents and environments. You can’t blame somebody for that.
this goes for literally everything. Someone might still experience it as obnoxious and intolerable. Me included
I am with you on generally trying to understand the reasons for a particular behavior. Does not always help with being annoyed by it though. Especially if they apply their world view to everyone else around them and start to judge you for enjoying work/life balance
I’m all for understanding, but my line is drawn when the understanding fails to lead to action. My oldest friend still chooses validation seeking over all else, despite knowing that it’s the crux of all his problems and knowing he has the support of everyone, he’s adamant that it’s not on him to change and it’s on his support network to accept this as who he is and accommodate it even at their detriment. 24 years, I can’t handle that. I’m not willing to undo changes I made for my mental health to accommodate a lifestyle he’s admitted to being toxic.
All 4? Not in my 30’s though. But everyone does all of these.
Friends?
It’s on tv all the time.
Ain’t nobody got time for that. I’m too busy working / raising a family / training for a marathon / [comment deleted by user].
















