Putting 3000 yen worth of change into the 711 self-checkout for a 100 yen item while pretending I don’t understand the cashier saying “its enough” in english and japanese because gives me back useful notes.
They didn’t haves 5s, and didn’t want to hand you a wad of ones.
Because sometimes people get mad about that shit.
"DO I LOOK LIKE A STRIPPER TO YOU, SIR!?
…because thank you I needed that confidence boost today."
This is why I prefer using a card. I can’t handle impromptu math. It makes my brain perform an emergency shutdown.
It’s not that hard: sum everything you’ll give (20+1=21), then it’s obvious you’ll receive 10 back.
When you’re talking to someone who’s expressing a great deal of anxiety (“emergency shutdown”), phrases like “it’s not that hard” and “it’s obvious” become “if you struggle with this, you’re an idiot”.
You might not be an idiot but you are lacking in experience doing basic things like handling cash and talking to people and being in the world, which is fine because everyone at some point is inexperienced.
The first time I had a cashier say this to me, I was also baffled and froze up… the customs of the rapidly-moving world outside were new to me. Now it’s easy and I understand the other person’s job. Everyone gets there, it just takes exposure, not running and hiding from it.
I’m glad you had progress! Notice I’m not the one who originally wrote about actually having a “shutdown”. My comment is about how someone’s choice of words can sabotage their point, depending on the listener’s situation. It is not encouragement to avoid challenging things.
A great deal of anxiety and an emergency shutdown because a cashier tried to make your life a bit easier? Calm down, I bet you enter a coma when your car breaks.
Edit: dammit people, you trying so hard to be broken makes a disservice to actual people suffering from these conditions. Don’t blame genetics for neglecting basic social skills, it’s like blaming genetics because you skip leg days.
I just assumed your knowledge on the matter is lacking up until that edit. Now you seem just willfully ignorant. Look up how many people are suffering from social anxiety.
Look how many people are suffering from unbalanced nutrition. Should we sympathize with them because nature didn’t give them the tools to eat healthier, or question their choices?
News flash: most people suffer social anxiety to some degree, it’s called the human condition. I used to be a very shy introvert, which is a killer combination because being in your comfort zone feels so safe you never bother, or even dread, of acquiring social skills needed to interact with the world.
Work forced me to manage my shyness, but I’m still a proud introvert, and still experience moderate social anxiety frequently. I had to understand that getting out of my bubble was required for me to assertively manage other people, and though it was painful at first, it was not that different than practicing a skill you suck at.
I empathize with people who actually suffer from crippling anxiety from past trauma, but I have null sympathy for people who willfully neglected their own human growth ñ, and try to get on the train of mental illness to justify their decision.
People who label others as “normies” and “neurodivergent” need a reality check. Normies suffer social anxiety too.
So what about people that got bullied during childhood? Sociological problems like being afraid to be judged? There are so many reasons for one to be socially anxious, it really does not come down to simply PTSD. You also seem to be mixing social anxiety with social anxiety disorder. I don’t think anyone mentioned disorder, which is what you’re referring to.
It seems like you think I’m the same person as the one with the “shutdown”. I’m a different person, pointing out clues to how your phrasing was sabotaging your own point. Now you’re just being demeaning – so I won’t continue.
Just because your brain functions normally in these situations doesn’t mean you get to make light of other’s physiological conditions. It just makes it incredibly obvious how ignorant and narrow minded you are.
Oh are you hearing a wee bit of voices in your head? I bet you have a hard time telling reality from your hallucinations too 🙄
Oh… I guess it makes sense. Definitely took me a few minutes to think through this… So…
Total: 11 1st attempt: 20 Change: 20 - 11 = 9 Cashier asks: +1 2nd attempt: 21 Change: 21 - 11 = 10Social impromptu math does not follow logic
(I downvote everything you say, because your name stands out, and it’s annoying. “Ooh! Look at me! I’m sPeCIal!” I know it’s petty. )
Kolkani’s name standing out has been a beacon of our community for two years.
Skill issue
I know it’s petty.
I’d say stupid before petty.
Congratulations! You’ve been tagged “🤡”! Now whenever I see your comments, I’ll know that you’re a little off & I shouldn’t give you too much credit.
When I was a cashier they recommended we not do this kind of thing, because there are some fast-talk scams people will do to get more money. Like they’ll give you more money, say something confusing, take the money back, and then you give them the extra change, except more sophisticated than that.
They were called “quick-” or”short-change artists”. They still exist, just not as common because people carry far less cash than they used to.
One of them almost got me back in the day as a cashier. It was one of my first days. After the transaction I felt something was off so I told my supervisor. The supervisor had gotten scammed by the same guy when he was new. Apparently this guy sought out the new cashiers. My supervisor actually went and got the guy before he left and actually said “excuse me sir, I believe the cashier gave you too much change.” The guy didn’t even dispute it and gave exactly the amount he shorted me. ($50) He absolutely knew what he was doing, and almost got away with it.
I know someone who did the scam by accident. Mentioned the number 50 talking to his friend while he was handing the cashier a 20. Got change for 50 euros instead of 20, noticed it later lol
I understand what you’re saying and it’s good policy. Many cashiers get confused by those things. I cashiered for many years at a place where if my drawer was perfect to the penny I got a free meal for my break. I got a free meal every single fucking day. Those scams just don’t work on some of us.
At least someone gets it
I once did this in reverse- I gave the cashier a dollar extra so I could just get a 10 back, and she said “here, you gave me too much”, and handed the 1 back
Same, I bought something years ago that amounted to something like $15.05, I had a $20 and some change so I tossed in an extra dime so I wouldn’t have to fill my wallet with singles and have a bunch of change in my pocket. Nope, cashier looked at me like I was stupid and handed me back my worst nightmare because they had to make up being short a quarter in dimes and nickels.
Yeah, my experience has been the reverse, where cashiers look at me like I’m stupid if I give them an additional $1 bill with the $20 I give them for something that costs $10.50.
I had this twice in the same day the other day. Was travelling, had cash to get rid of and the poor teenage cashiers these days can’t wrap their brain around the concept at all cos they never had to. Both times I get a “this 20 is already enough” and I said I’m trying get rid of coins. I could watch their brain rebooting, give up, punch it in the till and then be really baffled when they hand me back a 10 euro note.
Claiming this an idea no teenager can wrap their mind around has some serious boomer vibes. Especially given the context of the meme which is saying the customer is unable to process such a transaction at the moment which alludes to the fact that anyone on autopilot is capable of this sort of lapse.
Yesterday I was buying groceries and, having been a grocery store cashier before, I faced the UPCs towards him to make it easier. He picked up each item individually and checked every other surface before finding the UPC on every single time.
I wanted to grab him and shake him by the shoulders yelling “This was supposed to be easy for you!”
I put my groceries on the belt in the order they’re supposed to be bagged. Heavy stuff first (cans, milk, juice, frozen stuff), followed by meat, dry goods, then heavy produce, soft produce, eggs, then bread.
Most of the time it only benefits me since everywhere I shop just got rid of cashier bagging or baggers entirely after the pandemic. But the rare time a cashier bags I watch as they go out of their way to put cans on top of avocados.
The pain is real. It’s almost impressive when someone takes the effort to bag in an inconvenient order just to get the bread on the bottom.
I do this a lot for cases of beverages and usually let them know verbally since most people are just on autopilot. Most thank me for making things easy for them.
I struggled with this when I got moved to the front end of my store at 22
I done the dumb version: it’s 9.50 and I give 20.50
I’m just trying to help.
Eh, I’d still prefere a 10 and a 1 over a 10 and a 0.50.
(For those who can’t math, that means they get $11 back)
I paid in euros, so you should take into account the exchange rate
To be honest, I’m always a bit amazed that this doesn’t happen more often. Yesterday, I had to pay 50.93€ and handed the cashier 51.05€, because I’d rather have a 10ct coin and the cashier typically needs smaller coins more often.
In this case, it was obvious that I didn’t hand them the 5ct by accident, but that’s the sort of mind games I’ll play and so far, the cashiers were always a step ahead of me…
Cash transactions now get rounded to the nearest 5 cents here in Estonia so you won’t even get the 2 cents anymore. 5 is the minimum now
Think it’ll reduce usage of the tiny coins, but no idea if they’re also slowly removing them from circulation or not. In your scenario you would’ve received just 5 cents
Doesn’t invalidate the extra 5 cents to get 10 cents back, just nice to get back even fewer small coins I’d say. Sometimes you pay an extra cent or 2, sometimes you lose a cent or 2. Never more than 2 anyway
Yeah, our government occasionally discusses that idea again, but unfortunately nothing has been put into law yet. I would certainly prefer not having to carry around extra copper, just because companies want their .99 prices.
Shouldn’t you have received 12cts? In order to get 10cts back you ought to give 51.03€. Or am I just not mathing today?
No, no, you’re mathing correct. I did receive 12ct back. But 12cts is a 2ct coin + a 10ct coin. If I would have given 51.00€, it would have been a 2ct coin + a 5ct coin back. I didn’t mention the 2ct coin, because it’s always involved.
And I didn’t have 3cts myself, otherwise I would have made it 51.03€, yeah.
I just tell them to keep the change at this point
“You know what, here are the keys to my vault, help yourself”
It’s 12c
Honestly, I have no idea, if the cashiers are allowed to take extra change here, at least in the supermarkets.
I still want to try that at the town market, where I’ve always been too stupid to think of that so far, so I once got told that I could’ve kept that 1ct coin and one time, the guy actually gave me extra change, because he did not want to deal with those small coins. 🥴
I guess it isn’t significant enough for people to care
Might be different if you live in a country that is very strict on rules (like Germany or Japan)
Good guess. I live in Germany. 😅
Have we just given up on putting the currency symbol in the correct place?
(I know some currencies have the symbol after it, but I’m not aware of any dollar currencies that work that way)
No, the US doesn’t have sole authority to dictate what the correct place is to the entire world.
This is not a US thing…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar#Economies_that_use_a_"dollar"
I wasn’t asking on behalf of the US specifically. Pounds also work like that.
The British hold even less sway over me
Sure, but the point still stands that the placement of the symbol isn’t one nation standing alone - it’s one of two options and the world is split. Some currencies work one way, some the other.
I don’t like France but I still respect it’s preferred placement of its currency symbols, both present and historic. Seems rather arrogant otherwise.
Putting the currency symbol after always made more sense to me. It’s how every other unit of measurement works, why should currency be different?
afaik it’s on the left to stop people adding in more numbers on cheques.
Just the other day I was thinking we should use the currency symbol as the decimal marker. So something could cost 9$99
Yes? Is it going to confuse anyone?
Correct is whatever next generation of society adapts. It’s 10 dollars not dollars 10. I personally don’t care, I just don’t see the problem
I fail at basic math so I hate giving change lol. Just cant grasp stuff like 54-47, I end up having to count it out. I can do multiplication fine but never learned the tables, whatever those are. Cant do division…always wished I was good at math but it doesn’t make sense to me. Oddly everything im into like electronics and music and computers are all math heavy ha
music
math heavy
Dang it, there goes my plan of fleeing computers to escape math
Well in reality everything in the universe is math, so there’s no escape ha
Well, so long as it doesn’t involve me solving the integral of ([the limit of {the square root} or {the arctan} of x] over [some other shit on the bottom of a fraction]), I’m good yeah I’m feeling alright
Just don’t get too deep into mathrock, haha
Since 4 is less than 7, I subtract 10 from 54 to make it into (14-7)+(40-40). It’s basically what you do on paper.
Just pay with card plsthx
In Poland they would just say “do you have extra .50/1.73/3 zł”. No need to explain why. Everyone knew why.
I worked as a cashier. I’m not here to do math that’s why I’m using the register no you can’t give me another dollar to get an even $10 back. NEXT. Also as a customer no I do t have another $1 so you can give me an even $10 back
Edit: the machine does the calculation once I type in the amount you hand me. If I type in the amount and press enter and the drawer opens and you want to give me more money (not always an extra $1 or $0.01) I can’t input another number, the transaction is done. I’m not doing more math to keep my drawer even. Take your change and leave.
Yall sound like customers who’ve never had to be a cashier before.
As someone who worked at a register on and off for over a decade in their youth… This is a dumb take. Learn basic math
You never had scammers come in and try to fast talk you for some extra change with switching bills or making change and then Have your boss chew you out over being short $5 It’s all good
I worked a register, and just made change out of the drawer like I was taught–start at the pennies and work your way up. The register had the option of entering the tended amount, but I never used it. It’s not hard to do at all, I’m terrible at math, but I can handle adding and subtracting below 10.
This was 35 years ago, though. Public school has been shit since Bush.
Huh? The point in giving an even 10 back to the customer is that it keeps more change in your float. It’s for the cashiers benefit not the customers.
It’s a win win.
Just go to the safe and get more cash? It’s not that hard
Where did you work as a cashier where you can just go get more cash out of the safe without having to wait an eternity for a manager to do it?
When I was a cashier I didn’t care if anything took an eternity for anyone.
Pet store chain. They weren’t doing anything more than sending emails or helping guests and filling my cash drawer is helping guest check out faster
I worked as a cashier. I’m not here to do math that’s why I’m using the register
You are literally here to do math and the register is just keeping track of it and helping you out to make sure the math you are doing checks out.
I didn’t ask for more to make the change even either as a cashier, but I did understand when they gave extra to get even change because doing math was my job.
You seriously couldn’t be bothered to add 1 in your head? Honestly, that is terrifying. It also makes it so you have less work overall. Handing a $10 is much easier than handing a $5 and 4 $1s.
Absolutely, yes! This is something he has to do all day, and gets fired if he does mental math wrong. An easy thing 1000 times is hard.
No, an easy thing 1000 times becomes trivial. I am speaking as someone who worked as a cashier for a long time. I agree with the person above you… It’s terrifying. They are making their own job more difficult because they don’t want to add 1. You’re more prone to making an error the more change you have to give back.
I was a cashier too! Errors came from doing something weird outside of the process, not numbers that didn’t end in .00. In the training they explicitly said to not play that game because people will scam you.
I just don’t see how this isn’t the process. If you understand what the dollars and cents mean then it’s still just adding 1. I was also a cashier for years and never ever saw this be an issue. I met or trained dozens if not hundreds of cashiers and this was never such a problem that couldn’t be learned. If you can be trusted to handle cash you should be able to handle adding small values to a number
I get you, but cashiers are trained to be impatient and never wait for me to pull my change purse out to round it up, even if I tell them there’s more coming.
This is how it typically goes:
Cashier: Your total is $10.50. Me, handing them $20: Here, hang on to this, I’ve got some change. Cashier snatches the money, enters $20.00 in the machine and stuffs it in the drawer as I fish out the appropriate change. Me, as they are in the midst of gathering a large amount of change from the drawer: Here you go. Cashier, interrupted during their change counting, furrows their brows at me as if I just tried to pull a fast one on them.
It can’t be a quick change scheme if you haven’t given me my change yet. Just don’t be in such a rush.
Telling me you have more coming and magicking more money out of thin air are 2 different circumstances so I get where you’re coming from.
You have to do it like an old lady. First you hand over the 50 cents. Then you wait for the cashier to acknowledge that fifty cents is pretty fucking far from 10.50. When they say you’re ten short, then you pass the 20.
How do I know the total until I’m given it?
The store knows which items are taxed and which ones aren’t.
They tell you the total before you start paying, don’t they?
They say it’s 10.50
If you give them a 20, they’ll start giving back 9.50 before you can even attempt to do the exact coin exchange.
If instead you give the 0.50 first, they can’t start giving change before you’ve presented the rest of the cash.
That’s how you pay 20.50 in order to get 10 back.
It’s something you can do for your own sake to avoid having a pocket full of shrapnel. It’s not necessarily a help for the cashier, and they’ll definitely tell you if they need it. So, please don’t hold up the queue just to give exact or optimal change.
What am I going to do, put the $20 back in my pocket? No, that’s a dick move. I see that they’re acting like they’re in a rush. Pocketing the paper money will only slow down the transaction.
It’s a lose-lose scenario, just like the grandparent commenter suggests.
The register machine literally let’s you input the amount of cash given by the customer and it tells you how much to give back as change. You are just refusing to do your job at this point for no reason when the machine is already doing the math for you.
Same. I’ll sometimes grab an extra coin from the coin jar so I can give them $5 instead of $4.99, but outside that I’m not taking more money to give them more change. We have a nice sign telling people we can’t make change, go to the bank ma’am.
Doesn’t the register tell you which bills and coins to hand back? Just punch in what the guy handed you lol.
That’s what he’s saying. Everyone is mad that he won’t suddenly do mental math for them when they realize the missed opportunity after he opens the register.
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