When you’re talking to someone who’s expressing a great deal of anxiety (“emergency shutdown”), phrases like “it’s not that hard” and “it’s obvious” become “if you struggle with this, you’re an idiot”.
You might not be an idiot but you are lacking in experience doing basic things like handling cash and talking to people and being in the world, which is fine because everyone at some point is inexperienced.
The first time I had a cashier say this to me, I was also baffled and froze up… the customs of the rapidly-moving world outside were new to me. Now it’s easy and I understand the other person’s job. Everyone gets there, it just takes exposure, not running and hiding from it.
I’m glad you had progress! Notice I’m not the one who originally wrote about actually having a “shutdown”.
My comment is about how someone’s choice of words can sabotage their point, depending on the listener’s situation. It is not encouragement to avoid challenging things.
A great deal of anxiety and an emergency shutdown because a cashier tried to make your life a bit easier? Calm down, I bet you enter a coma when your car breaks.
Edit: dammit people, you trying so hard to be broken makes a disservice to actual people suffering from these conditions. Don’t blame genetics for neglecting basic social skills, it’s like blaming genetics because you skip leg days.
I just assumed your knowledge on the matter is lacking up until that edit. Now you seem just willfully ignorant. Look up how many people are suffering from social anxiety.
Look how many people are suffering from unbalanced nutrition. Should we sympathize with them because nature didn’t give them the tools to eat healthier, or question their choices?
News flash: most people suffer social anxiety to some degree, it’s called the human condition. I used to be a very shy introvert, which is a killer combination because being in your comfort zone feels so safe you never bother, or even dread, of acquiring social skills needed to interact with the world.
Work forced me to manage my shyness, but I’m still a proud introvert, and still experience moderate social anxiety frequently. I had to understand that getting out of my bubble was required for me to assertively manage other people, and though it was painful at first, it was not that different than practicing a skill you suck at.
I empathize with people who actually suffer from crippling anxiety from past trauma, but I have null sympathy for people who willfully neglected their own human growth ñ, and try to get on the train of mental illness to justify their decision.
People who label others as “normies” and “neurodivergent” need a reality check. Normies suffer social anxiety too.
So what about people that got bullied during childhood? Sociological problems like being afraid to be judged? There are so many reasons for one to be socially anxious, it really does not come down to simply PTSD. You also seem to be mixing social anxiety with social anxiety disorder. I don’t think anyone mentioned disorder, which is what you’re referring to.
About your first statement, doesn’t being bullied, or becoming afraid of being judged, count as trauma? Theres not a hard threshold beyond which abuse becomes trauma.
About the second, I took for granted that we were including anxiety disorder because this all started with brains doing an emergency shutdown because of a great deal of anxiety. Maybe it was hyperbole and I replied too quick, but I seriously hate when mental illnesses get taken lightly, they’re very serious and unfortunate conditions.
It seems like you think I’m the same person as the one with the “shutdown”.
I’m a different person, pointing out clues to how your phrasing was sabotaging your own point.
Now you’re just being demeaning – so I won’t continue.
Just because your brain functions normally in these situations doesn’t mean you get to make light of other’s physiological conditions. It just makes it incredibly obvious how ignorant and narrow minded you are.
Oh are you hearing a wee bit of voices in your head? I bet you have a hard time telling reality from your hallucinations too 🙄
When you’re talking to someone who’s expressing a great deal of anxiety (“emergency shutdown”), phrases like “it’s not that hard” and “it’s obvious” become “if you struggle with this, you’re an idiot”.
You might not be an idiot but you are lacking in experience doing basic things like handling cash and talking to people and being in the world, which is fine because everyone at some point is inexperienced.
The first time I had a cashier say this to me, I was also baffled and froze up… the customs of the rapidly-moving world outside were new to me. Now it’s easy and I understand the other person’s job. Everyone gets there, it just takes exposure, not running and hiding from it.
I’m glad you had progress! Notice I’m not the one who originally wrote about actually having a “shutdown”. My comment is about how someone’s choice of words can sabotage their point, depending on the listener’s situation. It is not encouragement to avoid challenging things.
A great deal of anxiety and an emergency shutdown because a cashier tried to make your life a bit easier? Calm down, I bet you enter a coma when your car breaks.
Edit: dammit people, you trying so hard to be broken makes a disservice to actual people suffering from these conditions. Don’t blame genetics for neglecting basic social skills, it’s like blaming genetics because you skip leg days.
I just assumed your knowledge on the matter is lacking up until that edit. Now you seem just willfully ignorant. Look up how many people are suffering from social anxiety.
Look how many people are suffering from unbalanced nutrition. Should we sympathize with them because nature didn’t give them the tools to eat healthier, or question their choices?
News flash: most people suffer social anxiety to some degree, it’s called the human condition. I used to be a very shy introvert, which is a killer combination because being in your comfort zone feels so safe you never bother, or even dread, of acquiring social skills needed to interact with the world.
Work forced me to manage my shyness, but I’m still a proud introvert, and still experience moderate social anxiety frequently. I had to understand that getting out of my bubble was required for me to assertively manage other people, and though it was painful at first, it was not that different than practicing a skill you suck at.
I empathize with people who actually suffer from crippling anxiety from past trauma, but I have null sympathy for people who willfully neglected their own human growth ñ, and try to get on the train of mental illness to justify their decision.
People who label others as “normies” and “neurodivergent” need a reality check. Normies suffer social anxiety too.
So what about people that got bullied during childhood? Sociological problems like being afraid to be judged? There are so many reasons for one to be socially anxious, it really does not come down to simply PTSD. You also seem to be mixing social anxiety with social anxiety disorder. I don’t think anyone mentioned disorder, which is what you’re referring to.
About your first statement, doesn’t being bullied, or becoming afraid of being judged, count as trauma? Theres not a hard threshold beyond which abuse becomes trauma.
About the second, I took for granted that we were including anxiety disorder because this all started with brains doing an emergency shutdown because of a great deal of anxiety. Maybe it was hyperbole and I replied too quick, but I seriously hate when mental illnesses get taken lightly, they’re very serious and unfortunate conditions.
It seems like you think I’m the same person as the one with the “shutdown”. I’m a different person, pointing out clues to how your phrasing was sabotaging your own point. Now you’re just being demeaning – so I won’t continue.
Just because your brain functions normally in these situations doesn’t mean you get to make light of other’s physiological conditions. It just makes it incredibly obvious how ignorant and narrow minded you are.