• SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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    Normally I would dismiss this as stupid propaganda. Now I am considering it to be an incredulous reality. 😒

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    This is so well played!

    Now Iran can attempt an attack almost openly on the US soil and many will believe it was an inside job. Well, that’s what happens when you have 0 credibility at home due to your compulsive need to say BS all the time.

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      Nah, we’ll still be able to tell. Effective, strategic, hits people of all walks of life? Iran. Bungled, half-assed, and happens in a blue city, in a community of color, at a gay bar… you know.

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          What dimension of chess are we now playing? 6D? 7D? Shit’s going to start blowing up and 1/3 of the people will be claiming it, 1/3 blaming it, and 1/3 lying about it, when in fact it was a laptop battery that overheated.

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        You mean like that “potential drone strike attempt” in California that the FBI said Iran might try to do? Despite it being unlikely that Iran has drones capable of striking California?

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          Haha, yeah. I saw that too and pondered at the veracity of that claim. If Iran has drones that can fly across the Indian and Pacific Oceans and still hit a target, damn, that’s a helluva technological leap.

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          A head’s up, totally feasible. A drone strike can be launched from a boat, a box truck, a garage, anywhere you can have an operator to control it.

          I’m not saying that this particular threat was a real problem, but personally I do not understand how the US has not been hit yet. Why is Iran not even bothering?

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            Because historically, the only two times the USA was actually attacked on USA soil, we retaliated with an unreasonable amount of force. Sure we didn’t nuke anyone after 9/11, but we did after Pearl Harbor and Trump is absolutely demented and egotistical enough to actually try to nuke a country that directly attacks the USA. Plus, attacking Iran is pretty unpopular in the USA because people can tell that we are doing this at the behest of Israel, and they don’t want American soldiers to die fighting Israel’s war (obviously some Americans are fine with this tho bc zionists are loyal to Israel above all else). If Iran attacks the USA directly then suddenly attacking Iran will be wildly popular in the USA, which will mean an even longer and more brutal conflict is guaranteed

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                I agree that it totally makes sense if Iran attacks the USA. It’s not good (war never is), but it makes sense. However, most Americans don’t think like this. They’ll suddenly feel an ounce of the fear that we’ve made other people across the world feel and instead of reflecting on why this happened and that it’s the consequences of the USA’s actions, they’ll get angry and go full scorched earth. Just like people did with 9/11. People still use that as “justification” for terrorizing the entire Middle East

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            We have sonar so good we can find a dead billionaire at the bottom of the sea. Ain’t no way they get a boat with a drone in range without us letting it happen.

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          They don’t have to launch direct attacks, as already there are sympathizers who could come out of nowhere.

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      Cletus at home in Arkansas doesn’t care about justice, he just wants freedom fries and lifted trucks

      The chumps that voted for this weren’t smart enough to spot evil in 2024, and they aren’t now either

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      lmao you still think brown people are the terrorists?

      I swear some people are unredeemable.

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              That’s not a race.

              You however think brown people want to blow themselves up in the middle of crowds. Gullible idiot.

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                That’s not a race.

                It’s your race if you think that is meant to be read literally.

                You however think brown people want to blow themselves up in the middle of crowds. Gullible idiot.

                Quote anything that I’ve ever said that even implies that.

                The US is bombing Iran, and so expecting Iran to attack US targets is not racist, it is an accurate description of the world where Iran is attacking US targets.

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                  Now Iran can attempt an attack almost openly on the US soil and many will believe it was an inside job. Well, that’s what happens when you have 0 credibility at home due to your compulsive need to say BS all the time.

                  what makes you think iran want to blow up civilians? you guys do that. Quit projecting yourself as the victim

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      Only that the Trumpets do have pretty plausible deniability if there is no clear and blatant evidence it’s a false flag, as nobody would believe the dumbasses in the US Admin were competent enough to pull off a successful false flag.

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        I’m already convinced that the guys removed from the flights were false flags. So they had bombs and then got arrested without detonating? My ass…

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    Trump started a war to protect himself and his epstein buddies. Nothing is off the table. Human life is cheap for these unfeeling creeps.

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    I find this claim I just read in a headline more credible than any of the claims released by the Epstein network because I feel like that’s pretty fucking obvious they’re either trying to provoke an attack or make a false flag look more believable.

    Just a friendly reminder that this happened a few weeks ago:

    European police agencies said on Friday that 22 people had been identified as being part of attacks involving a series of exploding parcels in ‌Europe in 2024, which the Russian military intelligence service was suspected of being behind…Explosions occurred in courier depots in Britain, Germany and Poland with security officials suggesting they were part of a test run for a Russian plot to trigger explosions on cargo flights to the United States.

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    … The world has gone very wrong when this doesn’t even sound so unbelievable. I only see one issue:

    So far the US seems to have given up trying to make pretext for anything. Trump can do anything he wants and be worshipped for it.

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      He still has to manufacture consent, and blaming the brown people for random bombings is the classic way. It’s not just unbelievable, it will happen.

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      He’d do it if he wants to restart the draft for troops on the ground.

      That being said, I don’t think it would acrually work that well and could easily backfire within the US. At the very least he would need heavy congressional support.

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    Well, how else is the pedo felon going to justify imposing martial law to avoid the bloodbath midterms?

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    I honestly think this is part of the plan.

    If there’s a 9/11 style event before 2028, it will open the door for Donald to became a true dictator, and even better, the American people will line up behind him and support it. (As evidenced by Dubya getting reelected after all the dictator shit he did post-9/11.)

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      It’ll have to be soon. He’s sundowning hard lately, and it won’t be much longer before he won’t even be able to get through a speech even with a teleprompter.

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        You’re not wrong. That’s almost certainly, in part, a driving factor behind the urgency of starting these wars now.

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    Wow! In my feed 17min ago it was announced the security chief was killed by an Israeli airstrike. Lemmy moves fast!

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    It’ll be an oil refinery if they’re smart and the power grid if they aren’t. Telegraph everything

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    You’re talking about America, the biggest terrorist/genocide state on earth. I don’t think they give a crap which flimsy excuse they need to use to cause terror on nations across the planet. They love war and terror, all to a degree

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      You’re talking about America, the biggest terrorist/genocide state on earth.

      Second biggest, israel takes the top place.

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        You fucking wish, Thats like saying a toddler is more dangerous than his dad. That’s another thing you colonist love, to pass the blame and point the finger at others to make yourselves look less guilty.