• SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today
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    7 hours ago

    What do we know?

    A video of the incident shows the elderly man patting the child on the head as he walked past her table at a food court in a shopping centre.

    A woman seated at the same table, believed to be the girl’s mother, immediately stopped him. Another man believed to be the father, walking back to the table, confronted the elderly man.

    After what appeared to be a heated exchange, the younger man was seen grabbing the elderly man’s arm and throwing him to the ground.

    Seemingly, a strange man violated a child’s personal space without her consent. What message does it send the child? “You are property for others to touch when they please?” Yes, that probably deserves retribution. People should know that this behavior is unacceptable. I wonder what words were exchanged.

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      47 minutes ago

      Absolutely. Standing up for your child is not encouraging violence, it’s teaching them that their boundaries are important. Those are parents who care about their child’s developing self-worth and there need to be more like them.

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      6 hours ago

      An old man patted a child’s head. I don’t think the head pat is a message that the child is his property. What type of “retribution” do you think is deserved here? It’s crazy that you would even use that word. Retribution is defined as punishment inflicted as vengeance.

      Of course it’s weird to touch people’s heads but your take on this is crazy.

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        6 hours ago

        I don’t think the head pat is a message that the child is his property.

        What does the child think?

        What type of “retribution” do you think is deserved here?

        Hard to say. It’s partly why I wonder what they said to each other.

        It’s crazy that you would even use that word.

        It’s crazy that you’re trying to normalize child abuse.

        Retribution is defined as punishment inflicted as vengeance.

        Correct. Do you know why? Because the damage was already done. He did not ask before touching, he touched someone else’s child. No one can undo that. We could ask him politely not to do it again, but would that deter him and others like him? No. Show them what happens when they choose to casually violate the boundaries of others.

        Why are you more interested in defending the aggressor than the victims?

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          I really have to know what you think being patted on the head means because you’re speaking as if the child was punched in the face.

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            No, I’m speaking as if she was touched without her consent. Because she was. We shouldn’t normalize that.

            Children should know that they have autonomy. Children should be taught the importance of consent so they can protect themselves. Adults should know better than to touch others without consent.

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              No, much of the language and ideas you expressed are more in line with if some great violence or trauma was inflicted. It does not line up with an unwanted head pat.

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          6 hours ago

          The father apologized and bought the old man a drink afterwards. It’s obvious that you feel very strongly about this, I understand it could be upsetting

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            6 hours ago

            The father should not apologize, the old man should. He got off lucky.

            I was abused, so it is a bit of a sore subject. It has been normalized. We need to reverse that. Children are human beings. Old men do not have the right to touch them. It’s alarming that so many people are getting this backwards. Think a bit more, please.

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              It is wrong to escalate quickly to violence against an ambiguous transgression, especially with someone older for whom a fall can easily be life threatening. The goal of a culture where a stranger doesn’t do that is a correct goal, and one we share - it is achieved by firmly but peacefully correcting the old man but using the incident as a teachable moment for the child. Explain to them what should have happened and why. It’s not too late for them to create a kinder, more respectful culture in time. I think going straight to violence is a misstep on that path, and making amends in the end was the right call.

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                But now the message is, “old people can touch whoever they want and you’ll be punished for stopping them.”

                Earlier, Yeo told Singapore news outlet Channel News Asia that he had patted the little girl’s head because she “was very adorable”.

                Stupid, shallow, selfish.

                “Old people like to pat young children’s heads,” he said.

                That does not make it okay. What the actual fuck?

                He added that he started hurting hours after the fall, and that he was taking paracetamol for his pain.

                I feel zero sympathy, dude should not have touched a child.

                In another post, the elderly man’s son thanked the police for responding to the matter quickly, adding that he sincerely hoped “justice will be served for my father”.

                Justice was almost served, but apparently he didn’t get his ass kicked hard enough.

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                  I am worried for you repeatedly concluding that violence is the only way to send a message of disapproval.

                  You can use your voice, you can use verbal signs like getting up and closer, without touching. Showing that you are ready to physically defend your child if the stranger does not back off right now. There is a huge realm of interaction between “letting it pass” and “violence”

                  The message the child receives is, someone randomly invaded my personal space and my parent got very upset with this person.

                  What message does it send to a child to respond to any socially wrong interaction with instant violence.

                  Being a parent though i can understand the sudden emption causing a violent outbursts. But at least these parents understand after the fact that they could responded better.

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                    But at least these parents understand after the fact that they could responded better.

                    And the old man and every other pervert have been encouraged to offend again. Really fucked up that you’re not getting this. The old man did something wrong and harmful, and now is pretending to be the victim.