Other then needing to capitalize the. The wrapped, round, red, big box. Is perfectly fine tho?
Stylistically it’s abnormal so it sounds funny, but grammar wise it’s perfectly fine. It’s just people are use to a common hierarchy adjectives, typically size then shape then color than condition in this case. So anything else sounds weird. But again, that’s entirely just a style choice.
English is way fucking more flexible then people give think. Style helps make things easier to understand quicker because you have to think about it less. But no information is lost and no confusion is created thus it’s fine objectively speaking.
Oh, we know it’s fucked up. I still can’t spell recieve and receipt and I have to look up pretty much every single new word I learn to find out how it’s pronounced.
I thought through it and I’d wager a stiff draught that it ought not be so rough, though as I’m taught, it’s nought to cough at that a sturdy, taut bough would snap under the weight of its idiosyncrasies.
In Anglophone school, We were taught as children “I before e, except after c.” This works most of the time, but “reign” breaks the rule. It is not even word orgin as both recieve and reign come from French.
Oh, no, it’s wrong grammatically too, they just don’t teach this unless you study linguistics. Most of all languages with fixed word order and some others have a natural order of adjectives. Tom Scott has a great vid about it.
Yes, Russian has an adjective order too. “A big old blue car” would be «большая старая синяя машина», saying «синяя большая старая машина» implies that “big old car” is a specific term.
It sounds unnatural to me as a native speaker, but I don’t know that it’s “wrong”. Even the Germanic languages as a family don’t consistently have the same order for words like that, which is neat.
It’s because of the adjective order. You grow up hearing everyone else use the same common adjective order. In this case it should be size shape color than condition.
Overall it would be opinion size, age shape, color, origin material purpose.
Because everyone uses that same adjective order as a child. You picked up on that so consciously and then adopted that style. There’s nothing that actually prevents you from mixing that up. There’s no rule or some sort of quirk of English that will break if you change that order.
You’re just not used to any other way so it sounds weird.
But changing that order won’t create any sort of confusion or loss of understanding. It’ll just make you have to actively think about something thus slowing you down. We’re doing it the way that everyone does it subconsciously is faster because you don’t have to actively think of it.
So by default you will always choose the fastest way to communicate. Because that’s going to require the least amount of thought for both yourself and the other party.
But again there is no reason you can’t change it.
The only real issue I can think of is if you do change it on purpose it would create an emphasis because you’re breaking a normality. Cuz people just subconsciously assume you go from subjective to objective when it comes to adjectives.
And changes to the standard stand out and thus create points of interest. But again, even that is still not a hard syntax rule.
English doesn’t really have a lot of hard rules. You can f*** with it real hard and it won’t break. Though you may sound very funny!.
English acting like it’s not a fucked up language where “the big, red, round, wrapped box” is fine but “the wrapped, round, red, big box” is wrong.
Other then needing to capitalize the. The wrapped, round, red, big box. Is perfectly fine tho?
Stylistically it’s abnormal so it sounds funny, but grammar wise it’s perfectly fine. It’s just people are use to a common hierarchy adjectives, typically size then shape then color than condition in this case. So anything else sounds weird. But again, that’s entirely just a style choice.
English is way fucking more flexible then people give think. Style helps make things easier to understand quicker because you have to think about it less. But no information is lost and no confusion is created thus it’s fine objectively speaking.
Oh, we know it’s fucked up. I still can’t spell recieve and receipt and I have to look up pretty much every single new word I learn to find out how it’s pronounced.
Oh man this is me with “exercise” and “exorcise.”
I thought through it and I’d wager a stiff draught that it ought not be so rough, though as I’m taught, it’s nought to cough at that a sturdy, taut bough would snap under the weight of its idiosyncrasies.
I haven’t had a proper crush in over a decade, but I think that sentence just might make it. That is beautiful, and thank you for sharing it.
🫶😘
In Anglophone school, We were taught as children “I before e, except after c.” This works most of the time, but “reign” breaks the rule. It is not even word orgin as both recieve and reign come from French.
Hey, you got one of them right!
Yeah… English is a frankenstein language…
Also the adjective order is fucked…
It’s only wrong in how it makes your soul feel. Gramatically, it’s okay.
Oh, no, it’s wrong grammatically too, they just don’t teach this unless you study linguistics. Most of all languages with fixed word order and some others have a natural order of adjectives. Tom Scott has a great vid about it.
Yes, Russian has an adjective order too. “A big old blue car” would be «большая старая синяя машина», saying «синяя большая старая машина» implies that “big old car” is a specific term.
It’s not grammatically wrong though. It’s a soft ordering constraint. It’s not a hard syntax rule.
If you’re being taught in a high-level linguistics class that it’s a hard rule, then that class is dog s***.
I’ve listened to enough syntacticians ramble about this topic for a life time.
It sounds unnatural to me as a native speaker, but I don’t know that it’s “wrong”. Even the Germanic languages as a family don’t consistently have the same order for words like that, which is neat.
It’s because of the adjective order. You grow up hearing everyone else use the same common adjective order. In this case it should be size shape color than condition.
Overall it would be opinion size, age shape, color, origin material purpose.
Because everyone uses that same adjective order as a child. You picked up on that so consciously and then adopted that style. There’s nothing that actually prevents you from mixing that up. There’s no rule or some sort of quirk of English that will break if you change that order.
You’re just not used to any other way so it sounds weird.
But changing that order won’t create any sort of confusion or loss of understanding. It’ll just make you have to actively think about something thus slowing you down. We’re doing it the way that everyone does it subconsciously is faster because you don’t have to actively think of it.
So by default you will always choose the fastest way to communicate. Because that’s going to require the least amount of thought for both yourself and the other party.
But again there is no reason you can’t change it.
The only real issue I can think of is if you do change it on purpose it would create an emphasis because you’re breaking a normality. Cuz people just subconsciously assume you go from subjective to objective when it comes to adjectives.
And changes to the standard stand out and thus create points of interest. But again, even that is still not a hard syntax rule.
English doesn’t really have a lot of hard rules. You can f*** with it real hard and it won’t break. Though you may sound very funny!.
I know it’s not wrong, but it would definitely give one away as a non-native speaker and come across very awkwardly.