• Omnipitaph@reddthat.com
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      Judging people they don’t know by their appearance.

      I’ve seen WAY more women tear down other women for their appearance than men. That and the crazy online dating statistics that came out showing women judge people by their appearance way more harshly.

      I don’t know if its a cultural problem or not, but people in general judge others by their appearance. Beautiful men have pretty privilege just as much as women.

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        I’m a dude but pretty much all the negative comments I get about my appearance come from women. The most I get from dudes occasionally is something akin to “lol, short” but mostly they compliment the fact that I work out. Women go into details about things they see wrong with me. Like I get that for women complimenting me comes with the risk that I’ll be a weirdo about it (not that I actually would) but you can just not say anything…

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      This is it, right here. It really doesn’t matter what women do, there will be a legion of people coming out of the woodwork to disapprove. I’m hardly a transhumanist but when it comes to those small modifications to ourselves to feel more attractive, I’m all for it.

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      There’s no question that judging women by their appearance is a widespread problem, but doing expensive/unsafe medical things for the sake of appearance is also about personality.

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        Yes… a personality often built off the unhealthy relationship society has with women’s physical appearance. Sure, women can not care, but their lives will often unfortunately be much more difficult for it. Even accounting for the effort put into their appearance. These things are not so easily divorced in reality as they are in online discussions.

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          I’m not ignoring societal pressures, but at some point you have to take responsibility for your priorities. I assume you wouldn’t excuse billionaires as just participating in capitalism and doing what they’re “supposed” to do. The harm of invasive medical procedures and medications for aesthetic reasons seems like a good place to draw the line and say “you have a problem”

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            comparing woman and the societal struggle they are forced through just by existing is not the same as choosing to maintain an evil system of financial oppression on the working class.

            this is a poor argument.

        • Cethin@lemmy.zip
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          This is pretending like it’s all women who do this, or even all the ones who care about their appreance. It’s usually only the extremely wealthy and/or famous. Most normal women don’t see the need for these procedures, but the ones trying to be famous/popular are predisposed to thinking others will look down on them for aging.

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      Am I supposed to know Ariana Grande on some deep interpersonal level to realize that she looks like a walking corpse?

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        Oh, wow. I hadn’t seen what she looked like in quite a while. I just looked her up, and that’s uncanny. I would bet her issue stems from the fact she became famous as a child, and feels the need to keep up that appearance. Most famous women are trying to prevent indications of aging (and failing harder than doing nothing), but that’s trying to stay looking 30s, not like a teenager.

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        A fun fact about opinions is that you can keep that shit to yourself. I dont know you but I’m not gonna offer my opinion cuz no one asked. Just because we all have a soapbox doesn’t mean we gotta use it

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          No, Ariana is beyond opinion. You can literally count her ribs. I literally cringe every time I see her. It’s beyond attractive or unattractive, she simply is not healthy.

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            Yeah when you can see their ribcage is when I stop thinking they look good and need to get some calories in them.

            Same for the “hyper shredded” men who need to drink more fluids.

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          A fun fact about opinions is that you can keep that shit to yourself

          Good thing they didn’t offer an opinion.

          Ariana Grande looks insanely unhealthy, like a skeleton, and appears to be in a health crisis with either ED or GLP1 abuse.

          That isn’t an opinion, that’s a fact. She’s undeniably not naturally that bone thin, nor that inactive during her performances like she’s been recently.

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            Wow she responded to Lemmy

            “The body that you’ve been comparing my current body to was the unhealthiest version of my body. I was on a lot of antidepressants and drinking on them and eating poorly,” she said. “[I was] at the lowest point of my life when I looked the way you consider my healthy, but that in fact wasn’t my healthy.”

            (Actually April 2023)

            https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ariana-grande-address-concerns-about-body-lowest-point-1234713153/

            OK all done with celebrity stuff for the month then! :) cared enough to quickly search once and accidentally found this^ but not opining

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              This might be shocking to learn, but someone who’s clearly going through a health crisis and is clearly extremely unhealthy due to an ED or GLP1 misuse, may actually lie about being unhealthy to get the scrutiny off of them.

              Not to mention Ariana went 30+ years not looking like an actual skeleton. No way in fuck her prior body was less healthy.

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      I think its reasonable to bring attention to the extremely harmful act of women, who are held by society as the beauty standard, are anorexic or abusing weight loss drugs when it isn’t necessary.

      We have countless studies on the ill effects idolizing women with unrealistic body standards, especially to the point they’re harming themselves to achieve them, has on women and young girls. This recent revival of the “heroine chick” beauty standard via eating disorders and GLP1 abuse is a nightmare to the psyche of women and girls, and also does damage the psyche of men and young boys for that matter.

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        “Heroin chic” is the fashion of looking starved and shadowed as if you’re a heroin addict.

        “Heroine chick” is Supergirl

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          “You are my heroine! And by that I mean lady hero. I don’t want to inject you and listen to jazz”