Relations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official.
Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vatican’s U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.
“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”
The pope could do the funniest thing rn and call a crusade on the US
I remember in the last book of the Bible it always talks about the very Christian one world government.
Ah, the old Might Makes Right mantra!
This one predates humanity itself, or even cellular lifeforms. I wonder why the Cardinal did not know this? Oh well, at least now he has been reeducated, so all should be well!
Guys fucking delusional 🤣 we’ve seen how well that works over the last 50 years.
Pew poll: 52% of Catholics including 61% of white Catholics back Trump over Harris
Should be interesting to see how that plays with the electorate.
EDIT: Also, I don’t have my finger on the pulse of the Catholic Church in the US, but the current pope, Leo XIV, was the first born in the US. I know that John Paul II, Polish, was the first Polish pope and was highly-regarded in Poland, and I can imagine that there might be a similar effect in the US among American Catholics.
Catholics are not the major Christian group, it’s 2nd place in the US. 69% of US residents claim to be Christian, 45% of which Christians claim to be Protestant while only 22% of which say Catholic (Gallup 2020). It’s regional too, I beleive centered around Italian and Irish immigrant communities, or at least the suburbs around where those city diasporas used to be. Protestants specifically do not give a shit about the pope.
Are US protestants the same as UK Anglicans? Like is it the same church? I thought for sure most US Christians were nutjob baptists or other what would similarly fringe sects anywhere else in the world. Wait, are baptists protestants?
Anglicanism is sort of Protestantism. It forked off of the Catholic Church after the start of the Protestant Reformation, but wasn’t really part of the movement. The king of England at the time specifically had a problem with the Pope and essentially took over the churches in England, keeping the Catholic traditions and power structure but changing the head of the faith from the Pope to the king. The English monarch is still officially the head of the Anglican Church.
Americans are very much not Anglican and many of the people who emigrated to the colonies were religious minorities from proper Protestant groups.
Alright, so I had to check my understanding. Yeah, that’s all Protestantism, but they’re all different and all disagree with each other. Baptists are the largest single Protestant group in the US, overlapping to classic original southern US states. Honestly, I thought Protestants were a distinct group but I guess the group I’d assume them to be would actually be Lutherans, assuming they’re adherent to the original protesting Martin Luther.
Evangelicals are the most vocal, and they are very much opposed to the Pope.
“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”
Yes, you have lots of guns and bombs and you’re very big and strong. But the Pope was offering a moral criticism. You know, about morality, doing the right thing. Have you or your “Christian” colleagues ever heard of it? Turns out it doesn’t often align with who is most eager and equipped to kill anyone who looks at them the wrong way. Even Jesus (heard of him?) had a thing or two to say about that.
“How many divisions does the pope have?”
Joseph StalinPeter Hegseth
