• OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    If they’re going to withdraw then why are they strong arming all the other nations to spending 5% GDP on defense? If they’re not in NATO, who gives a fuck what they want?

    • brad_troika@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Why do you think that? How would losing half the military assets and technology would benefit NATO?

  • UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Just removing the US from another world stage

    Soon we will be completely irrelevant

    Which is the plan

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          1 month ago

          Eeeeehhh, if you just look at numbers of boats, yes. The US Navy has far, far more experience, though. Drones are also going to change the game in ways we’re only starting to see with the Ukraine War. With that, the answer might be “everyone’s boats are sunk now”.

          China probably couldn’t gain air superiority over Taiwan, and without that, an invasion will fail. That will be true even if the US ends up losing more boats.

      • saimen@feddit.org
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        1 month ago

        Only “solution” I see is civil war. The nukes are still a problem for the rest of the world though

  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    They want out because it’s stopping to be a market for the US military industries, as Europe increasingly wants to spend domestically. As such, it now has very little interest.

    US: We want you to spend more on defence!
    Europe: Ok, we will buy more, from our own companies!
    US: That’s not what I meant! I’m going home!

    • frezik@midwest.social
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      1 month ago

      Cause and effect are a little twisted here. Trump was already undermining NATO during is first term by saying European members should spend more. They didn’t agree at the time, but the Ukraine War proved that Europe really did need a more domestic MIC, and now they are.

      Trump wasn’t saying it in the first place because he thought it would help NATO.

  • CircaV@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    Great!! Fuck right off USA!!! Without you idiotic dipshits in NATO the rest of the aligned countries don’t have to listen to your moronic whining to spend $ on US defense weaponry/planes etc. You won’t be missed and piss off. From Canada’s POV we’re really looking forward to spending billions on Saab Gripens - so we can protect ourselves from you.