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      3 days ago

      I think the entire world learned the true genocidal nature of Israel’s very existence.

      It needs to end.

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          In the long arc of history it is inevitable. The occupation is not sustainable. The Crusader Kingdom itself only lasted one century. I have little doubt that Israel will end before that long. The question is, will this apocalyptic cult of Zionism take all humanity along with it? It’s possible that all of our days are numbered.

          Optimist? Maybe, maybe not.

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          2 days ago

          You support Israel? Russia supports Palestinian liberation.

          I support the democratic human right of self determination, same for Palestine as the Donbass.

          Let people vote. It’s a simple rule I follow, applied even for our supposed “enemies”.

          And our “allies”? America is arming over 80% of the world’s dictatorship, not Russia.

          If you see democracy as a universal principle, and not a privilege enjoyed on the backs of the oppressed, not a selective cudgel to steal natural resources, then that makes America the least democratic nation on Earth.

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            Nobody should support Israel.

            Just as nobody should support the russian invasion of Ukraine. It’s crazy how people can flip the narrative and start speaking about how Ukraine isn’t having elections as some kind of gotcha when the entire reason is due to the invasion from their neighbors to the east.

            The US is fucked for sure, but it’s nothing even comparable to what’s going on in Russia.

            I support the democratic human right of self determination, same for Palestine as the Donbass.

            So, you disagree with what Russia is doing?

            Sadly, the us is devolving into a similar state as Russia regarding “democracy” but Russia doesn’t even try to keep the façade going anymore regarding elections. The duma elections? Free and fair for sure….

            One thing I can say is that at least the us puts a higher price on casualties of their armed services. Russia just using people as cannon fodder now…sending people out to their deaths by the thousands with zero regard.

            Furthermore, regarding the Russian invasion of Ukraine… it’s funny how Russia is starting to get desperate and have escalated their attacks on civilians in response to getting nowhere on the battlefield. Sure they have always been conducting a terror campaign via blatant war crimes but it’s pulling out all stops now. Guess they are just upset the tides are turning as they continue failing to get any objectives complete for their “special military operation” lol

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              2 days ago

              If you oppose Israel then I think you’re coming from a good place and you’re speaking earnestly. However, I do believe you’ve been misinformed. The war propaganda you’re repeating simply doesn’t match the realities. I’m not saying you’re lying, just that you’ve been lied to.

              I would welcome discourse in good faith, and I’ll tell you exactly why I support what Russia is doing.

              America creates the necessity for authoritarian rule. Nations are forced to turn to strongmen, elected or not, else we will destroy you, take all your natural resources, privatize your public institutions, force austerity, basically enslave entire nations within neoliberal feudalism. Blackrock owns Ukraine now. Look it up. Their grandchildren’s grandchildren will be paying off generational debt from predatory military and IMF loans. Annexation would make that disappear overnight.👍 And that’s just the start of what we want to do to Russia.

              THIS is all you need to know about the West’s adversarial nature with Russia.👇

              The RAND Corporation wrote a whitepaper that basically translates to “How to destroy Russia and take all their shit.”

              Russia is more democratic than America, despite their defensive authoritarian tactics to stave off our own aggression. Putin is massively popular, with an approval rating higher than any modern U.S. President. I don’t think we get to chalk that up to “brainwashed Russians”, nor do we get to tell people they “voted wrong”, in Russia or Ukraine.

              America arms over 80% of all dictatorships, not Russia. If you sincerely believe in democracy as a universal principle, then that makes us the least democratic nation in the world by far.

              People can vote while a war is going on. That’s never been a thing. It was added to the constitution only after an unconstitutional coup. If they can vote in Euromaiden singing contests, they can surely determine their own destiny.

              In regards to the war, it’s not Russia kidnapping men off the street to be pressganged into forced conscription. That’s Ukraine. Men can’t even leave to escape this fate. They’re drowning in rivers trying. They dress like old ladies just to go out in public. They can’t vote, they can’t leave, all opposition parties have been banned, all opposition media has been seized by the coup government. It’s victory or death, and no realistic person believes in the former as even remotely possible.

              Over a million men have died in total. No one knows the exact amount. The “Discord Leaks” showed we are not being told the true number by Kiev.

              This is what it looks like when you wage war against an adversary you still see as human. Russia is trying to liberate people they’re literally related to. More people have fled to Russia than any other nation, simply for the fact that they are Russian, brothers, sisters, cousins.

              The Ukraine War has seen the lowest civilian death rate than any major conflict in modern history. Nothing even comes close. Compare that to Gaza, polar opposites.

              If you really look at civilian deaths in total, Ukraine is the one more willing to attack civilian sites, even attack nuclear power plants.

              When it comes down to it, Israel and Ukraine are both just fascist ethnostate proxies of Western imperialism.

              Yes, the Palestinians and the people of the Donbass have much in common. The difference is that a major power is helping the Donbass people. And I’m glad. I wish Iran and Yemen could do more for Palestine, but they can’t.

              Western imperialism has become an existential threat to all humanity. A multipolar world order may be our only hope.

              Anyways, thanks for speaking to me in good faith. I hope you can at least examine the details of what I covered before dismissing me as a “Russian bot” or “gay for Putin” as a kneejerk response.

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                The RAND Corporation wrote a whitepaper that basically translates to “How to destroy Russia and take all their shit.”
                Russia is more democratic than America, despite their defensive authoritarian tactics to stave off our own aggression.

                Nuh-uh, this is what a real democracy looks like :

                Anyway, unlike the disinformation of these russian propaganda medias(, that our democracy fortunately censored to preserve our freedom), i know that Putler will die of his multiple cancers anytime now, despite being one of the richest man on Earth.
                Ukraine is clearly winning by killing ten times more russians each day, they only need to recruit a few more valiant soldiers, just don’t believe these fake videos online.

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                  This reads like satire.

                  “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

                  Edit: This is satire. Thanks for the laugh, comrade.

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                There’s so much to unpack here that I don’t think it’s worth my time but starting from the very first thing and not going deeper…

                I’ll tell you exactly why I support what Russia is doing. Because America…

                Lmao. Yeah bro you support killing of civilians because America. Stfu

                You are either a troll, evil, or just plain stupid and I honestly cannot figure out which one.

                I support Ukraine because I believe they have a right to defend themselves and honestly I find it hilarious that they are getting the upper hand on the kremlin. Watching Russia fail in real time in such a spectacular fashion is amusing to me.

                The gas station of the world cannot even provide their citizens with gas anymore lol. Fuckin great

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                  He’s a very vocal pro-Kremlin shill. I won’t even call him pro-Russian because he specifically tries to state that Russia is a victim of the west, instead of being a victim of Putin.

                  He’s already gotten himself banned from c/politics lol

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                    1 day ago

                    Yeah man. He’s definitely a troll. Even the dumbest people in Russia would call him out for nearly everything he’s said above.

                    He will probably tell you that Ukraine not struck nearly every refinery in Russia multiple times And there are no fuel shortages lol

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                  What civilians? Civilian deaths are almost statistically non existent.

                  Can I assume “unpack” translates to you coming to terms with your own cognitive dissonance?

                  For instance, what basis is Ukraine getting the upper hand? Could you point to any quantifiable justification for saying this?

                  More land is being liberated, albeit slowly to prevent collateral deaths. Headlines you see celebrate slowed Russian advances, not net gains for Ukraine. That’s not been true since Russian reconsolidated along the Donbass front years ago.

                  The Russian economy has only grown. The ruble is stable. Production is booming. Gas is $3.33/gal. What are you seeing that I’m not?

                  What informs anything you’re saying?

                  Is this an attempt at manifesting something into reality?

                  Do you think Russian soldier will read made up assertions and become too sad to fight?

                  What?

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                    What civilians? Civilian deaths are almost statistically non existent.

                    Coming in hot with the propaganda huh? Lol. Damn son. I know Russia has a pretty tight lockdown on the Internet, but most of the Russian population, And the rest of the world knows that you are an idiot for making this statement.

                    Everything else you’ve said is so easily debunked and verifiably false that anybody reading it could immediately call it out as bullshit; Not even worth picking apart and providing proof that you’re just a troll and or stupid.

                    I trust Russian women crying in their vehicles and posting the videos to telegram more than anything that comes from you. nobody should consider you as a serious person.

                    Enjoy your fuel rations loser