• PagPag@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    There’s so much to unpack here that I don’t think it’s worth my time but starting from the very first thing and not going deeper…

    I’ll tell you exactly why I support what Russia is doing. Because America…

    Lmao. Yeah bro you support killing of civilians because America. Stfu

    You are either a troll, evil, or just plain stupid and I honestly cannot figure out which one.

    I support Ukraine because I believe they have a right to defend themselves and honestly I find it hilarious that they are getting the upper hand on the kremlin. Watching Russia fail in real time in such a spectacular fashion is amusing to me.

    The gas station of the world cannot even provide their citizens with gas anymore lol. Fuckin great

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      He’s a very vocal pro-Kremlin shill. I won’t even call him pro-Russian because he specifically tries to state that Russia is a victim of the west, instead of being a victim of Putin.

      He’s already gotten himself banned from c/politics lol

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        Yeah man. He’s definitely a troll. Even the dumbest people in Russia would call him out for nearly everything he’s said above.

        He will probably tell you that Ukraine not struck nearly every refinery in Russia multiple times And there are no fuel shortages lol

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          That’s why I do engage with them. Get them to create paradoxical statements and try to reason why the paradox is acceptable.

          It’s like watching a storage tank implode.

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            I think that even other Russian propagandists are looking at this guy and wondering why they don’t tone down the rhetoric.

            It needs to be more subtle to be effective. Meanwhile this loser is stating the sky isn’t blue…like damn dude are you really that stupid? Haha

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              Half the effectiveness in older Kremlin shilling was sublty. Most effective propaganda is subtle.

              Russia knows that they can’t win in outright warfare (look at Ukraine and their attempt in Afghanistan during the Soviet Union). They developed some of the most sophisticated psychological studies in the world.

              Except after the collapse of the soviet union, the brain drain accelerated. 2016, they still had remnants. By 2020 their psychological prowess had suffered a lot. Its evident, now, that the brain drain has caught up to them.

              Its why authoritarian regimes inevitably fail. Anti-intellectual movements remove the people that keep things moving forward.

              I will give one exception to that. China. But China has made a lot of improvements, and typically tends to act within its own borders (except for the Taiwan and overfishing problem).

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      What civilians? Civilian deaths are almost statistically non existent.

      Can I assume “unpack” translates to you coming to terms with your own cognitive dissonance?

      For instance, what basis is Ukraine getting the upper hand? Could you point to any quantifiable justification for saying this?

      More land is being liberated, albeit slowly to prevent collateral deaths. Headlines you see celebrate slowed Russian advances, not net gains for Ukraine. That’s not been true since Russian reconsolidated along the Donbass front years ago.

      The Russian economy has only grown. The ruble is stable. Production is booming. Gas is $3.33/gal. What are you seeing that I’m not?

      What informs anything you’re saying?

      Is this an attempt at manifesting something into reality?

      Do you think Russian soldier will read made up assertions and become too sad to fight?

      What?

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        What civilians? Civilian deaths are almost statistically non existent.

        Coming in hot with the propaganda huh? Lol. Damn son. I know Russia has a pretty tight lockdown on the Internet, but most of the Russian population, And the rest of the world knows that you are an idiot for making this statement.

        Everything else you’ve said is so easily debunked and verifiably false that anybody reading it could immediately call it out as bullshit; Not even worth picking apart and providing proof that you’re just a troll and or stupid.

        I trust Russian women crying in their vehicles and posting the videos to telegram more than anything that comes from you. nobody should consider you as a serious person.

        Enjoy your fuel rations loser

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          You didn’t even look it up.

          17,257 civilian deaths out of two million. That’s unheard of. That’s the lowest rate in any major conflict in modern history.

          Look at Gaza, the polar opposite.

          This is what happens when you wage a war of liberation instead of extermination.

          Your propaganda doesn’t mesh with reality.