I’ll ask again, any data to actually support this. Been asking 6 years now and rarely get a response. And when I do it’s t9 secondary sources that all link back to a private industry report with no methodology or a MSNBC report with some of the shittiest questions for a poll I’ve seen
It’s insane, you’ve got people screeching nobody needs this because of biased perceptions.
I’m my observation most truck users use then quite a bit. I’m on the light side and two 2k a year and maybe 10 home depot trips , and all my peers are using them even more 🤷♂️. Maybe not as scientific as a rough survey of a parking lot and making assumptions about clean vehicles not being used properly!
So you don’t actually have anything that says otherwise. Im sorry; your entire argument is invalid and rules of the code d’ebatemebro say you get ten minutes in the shame corner or ritual suicide. The shame corner is live streamed.
So you’re just making shit up and projecting. Well, at least your honest about what your doing. Makes me feel quite a bit less gaslit even I hear all these screeches about not using a truck properly. Makes total sense how is so out of line with reality.
There’s 2 F series trucks for every square mile of this country. Do you think they are all out there hauling loads and trailers, off roading and actualling being used for truck stuff, or do you think that the vast majority of them are single occupant highway battering rams built to make small men feel big and important?
Remember, 2 per square mile, and that just one series of trucks, from 1 manufacturer, going back just 10 years.
In the absence of hard statistics, I think a gut check on the sheer scale of trucks being sold in the US will suffice.
Everyone I know uses them pretty consistently to tow. I know of one or two people who don’t use it well. I think a portion of them probably could get away with a ranger.
In the absence of any real data, trying to roughly include my small suburban town just outside of rural (more used and working class users) anecdotally it wouldn’t surprise me to see anywhere between 20-35% of owners not having any sort of real use for their truck. I’d wager that most of those owners are new owners as well.
That’s not to say there aren’t dumb idiots living in downtown NYC being morons. I just don’t think it’s remotely as crazy as the fuck cars community would have you believe.
If only there was another way to acquire a vehicle created with the intention of moving large items. That way You-haul it for way less then owning maintaining and the price difference in gas. They should also make these available at every big box home improvement store. The cyber truck was created for you have a nice day.
It’ll never be cheaper for me to own a car and rent a truck every other weekend and two 10 day weeks a year for my vacations than owning my truck. I’m not hauling kayaks and bikes and stuff in a car. I’ve done it, no. Go drive to the UP in a Home Depot rental truck. Yah ok boss.
Hey dumb dumb you ain’t the guy we are talking about sounds like you would use the truck. But I’m sure you are going up north to secluded location where there isn’t any pavement or launches definitely no way you could just rent a kayak/canoe, ain’t no business like that you could probably make a fortune. If only there was some contraption to attach your bike to say a roof or a trunk another million dollar idea. Good luck with your denial.
Rolling up north with a sedan that has kayaks on top and two bikes on the back and filled with camping gear sucks.
And no, where I go you can’t rent and the places you can rent are expensive and not set up for fishing. You keep pretending renting this stuff is cheap and convenient. It is not.
“Ope want to go scumbag launch my small boat off the riverbank better spend an hour securing a truck at Home Depot.” Yeah no
Yeah no shit. Everything but subsistence farming and eating gruel is a convenience. You’re not making a good case for your argument if you’re listing convenience as a con. Try again.
Mmm gruel. Come on bro your telling me it’s necessary for you to live kayaking in upper Michigan? Some people want to haul kids to soccer in a truck some people haul their cute plastic kayaks and overpriced carbon fiber bicycles I’m not here to judge. You probably bring fudge home don’t you?
OK you’re an objectively bad driver if you would prefer people with normal licenses driving box trucks. You have made the classic mistake of solving a problem by creating a new one.
It’s not like people with trucks haul anything nowadays. Just a status symbol.
I got an 87 F150 that hauls trash and kayaks… what’s my status?
Someone who isn’t trying to compensate for masculinity, or aerodynamics.
A perfect 5/7
You’re cool. You pass.
My 08 hauls so many kayaks and has enabled so many cool adventures.
Depends, 300 302 or 351?
300, it will probably outlive all of us
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Live happy. Look up WNCW.
I’ll ask again, any data to actually support this. Been asking 6 years now and rarely get a response. And when I do it’s t9 secondary sources that all link back to a private industry report with no methodology or a MSNBC report with some of the shittiest questions for a poll I’ve seen
Source: go outside. Hell, even in a home depot parking lot, with heavy samplibg bias in your favor.
So truthyness and your gut feeling.
It’s insane, you’ve got people screeching nobody needs this because of biased perceptions.
I’m my observation most truck users use then quite a bit. I’m on the light side and two 2k a year and maybe 10 home depot trips , and all my peers are using them even more 🤷♂️. Maybe not as scientific as a rough survey of a parking lot and making assumptions about clean vehicles not being used properly!
So you don’t actually have anything that says otherwise. Im sorry; your entire argument is invalid and rules of the code d’ebatemebro say you get ten minutes in the shame corner or ritual suicide. The shame corner is live streamed.
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Do you think there is some dataset that says that people make poor choices due to emotional immaturity?
Maybe there is a dataset that shows the rate of unladen trucks per mile?
You won’t get it because it doesn’t exist, asking for it is an absurd notion because you know it cannot be produced.
Not like the smol pp crew is busy logging miles to the grocery store and office.
So you’re just making shit up and projecting. Well, at least your honest about what your doing. Makes me feel quite a bit less gaslit even I hear all these screeches about not using a truck properly. Makes total sense how is so out of line with reality.
You can feel any way you like. That is your irrevocable right. I have neither the ability nor desire to deprive you or anyone else of it.
However if you drive a big truck with a tiny bed, you are a silly little man!
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There’s 2 F series trucks for every square mile of this country. Do you think they are all out there hauling loads and trailers, off roading and actualling being used for truck stuff, or do you think that the vast majority of them are single occupant highway battering rams built to make small men feel big and important?
Remember, 2 per square mile, and that just one series of trucks, from 1 manufacturer, going back just 10 years.
In the absence of hard statistics, I think a gut check on the sheer scale of trucks being sold in the US will suffice.
Everyone I know uses them pretty consistently to tow. I know of one or two people who don’t use it well. I think a portion of them probably could get away with a ranger.
In the absence of any real data, trying to roughly include my small suburban town just outside of rural (more used and working class users) anecdotally it wouldn’t surprise me to see anywhere between 20-35% of owners not having any sort of real use for their truck. I’d wager that most of those owners are new owners as well.
That’s not to say there aren’t dumb idiots living in downtown NYC being morons. I just don’t think it’s remotely as crazy as the fuck cars community would have you believe.
Is even softer data than what I posted, and softer than the old survey you were complaining about.
Yep. But I’m not out hating people over it. I’d actually like to know.
Yeah, because you’re in a big truck, and not a sensibly sized car getting pinched between a brodozer and a concrete barrier everyday.
No I’m mostly in my Miata or my bike. Again, y’all just invent things.
Ah, so you wouldn’t recommend that someone buy one of these things as a daily driver? You only have the truck for doing truck stuff, right?
I may not haul things every day, but when I do need to haul things, it’s worth it despite people like you being condescending about it. 🤷♂️
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If only there was another way to acquire a vehicle created with the intention of moving large items. That way You-haul it for way less then owning maintaining and the price difference in gas. They should also make these available at every big box home improvement store. The cyber truck was created for you have a nice day.
It’ll never be cheaper for me to own a car and rent a truck every other weekend and two 10 day weeks a year for my vacations than owning my truck. I’m not hauling kayaks and bikes and stuff in a car. I’ve done it, no. Go drive to the UP in a Home Depot rental truck. Yah ok boss.
Hey dumb dumb you ain’t the guy we are talking about sounds like you would use the truck. But I’m sure you are going up north to secluded location where there isn’t any pavement or launches definitely no way you could just rent a kayak/canoe, ain’t no business like that you could probably make a fortune. If only there was some contraption to attach your bike to say a roof or a trunk another million dollar idea. Good luck with your denial.
Rolling up north with a sedan that has kayaks on top and two bikes on the back and filled with camping gear sucks.
And no, where I go you can’t rent and the places you can rent are expensive and not set up for fishing. You keep pretending renting this stuff is cheap and convenient. It is not.
“Ope want to go scumbag launch my small boat off the riverbank better spend an hour securing a truck at Home Depot.” Yeah no
So you admit you need a truck out of convience and not necessity.
Yeah no shit. Everything but subsistence farming and eating gruel is a convenience. You’re not making a good case for your argument if you’re listing convenience as a con. Try again.
Mmm gruel. Come on bro your telling me it’s necessary for you to live kayaking in upper Michigan? Some people want to haul kids to soccer in a truck some people haul their cute plastic kayaks and overpriced carbon fiber bicycles I’m not here to judge. You probably bring fudge home don’t you?
Thank you for proving my point.
Thanks for making driving on the road with you awful.
OK you’re an objectively bad driver if you would prefer people with normal licenses driving box trucks. You have made the classic mistake of solving a problem by creating a new one.
Ever considered a trailer?
Does a trailer tow by itself? I’m hauling cars.