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    I don’t think they wait till smartphone and smart tablet are stabilised, when they do iphone and ipad, their competitors are still fumbling around with the tech but they somehow make it right. When they do vision pro the same thing is happening, their competitor(google glass, microsoft hololens) is still fumbling around with the tech, but this time they overestimated their own capability and also the demand of this thing.

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      You already had Blackberry, Symbian and Maemo before iPhone. Blackberry showed you can make a phone that’s a productivity device. Symbian showed you can create ecosystem of apps. Maemo and others showed you can have touch based interface. Those were all stable, popular products (maybe Maemo was more niche but N900 was a fully capable mobile phone).

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        Honestly, blackberry did productivity better than apple ever did, but blackberry was “too” secure and apple marketing was just too much for people to get past.

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          BlackBerry also lost because of the ecosystem, the App Store had so much more to offer than BlackBerry did. Also BlackBerry stuck to their physical keyboard, which in hindsight was a bad idea.

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            I would kill a man to get my physical keyboard back.

            I just want a Blackberry Perl with a modern processor. That’s all I want. Compact, comfortable in my hand, intuitive physical navigation and typing. I’d pay a premium to get those "primitive " phone features back.

            Apps are overrated. I’m ready to be done with the app ecosystem. Websites can tell the difference between a desktop and mobile user now, so why do I need a banking app on my phone when going to the bank’s website should be a functionally identical user experience?

            The only thing app stores have done is create walled gardens that are now difficult to escape from and create anti-competitive advantages for Google and Apple.

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            Are you kidding? I would kill for modern phone with Blackberry keyboard. I mean there are couple of nice options now but nothing works with deGoogled OSes and I’m definitely not going back to stock Android… But I loved all BB phones, even the Android ones. The keyboards worked great and had sooo many great features. They had some models without keyboard but they just were not able to compete in Android market.

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      They released iphone after many competitors had half baked products in the market. Using capacitive touch with gestures like pinch zoom was absolutely brilliant.

      For tablets, they waited until Microsoft’s attempt at tablet computers failed, and then they gave their own twist. I guess there was a time they actively learned from their competitors’ successes and mistakes.

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        Using capacitive touch with gestures like pinch zoom was absolutely brilliant.

        They already had a superior trackpad on MacBooks, so this is an example of them being a first mover- nobody had combined those two technologies.

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        Apple actually claims to have developed the iPad before the iPhone, but the tech was moving fast enough to miniaturize it and release the phone first, I think mostly because everyone had been begging for an iPod-phone for years at that point.

        They’d also been improving track pad and OS for years before the iPhone released. Bit to mention the Newton, which failed pretty fast.

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        Oh man, that brings back memories. I had to work with a first generation HP tablet because my company wanted to ride the hype by supporting “the greatest thing ever”. It was so painful to use

        That experience soured me on tablets until my family somehow managed to get an iPad mini on a give away and it was a world of difference