• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    I don’t like Interstellar because what the hell does growing corn have to do with going into a black hole?

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    18 hours ago

    Interstellar is a great pick here because I hate it with a passion and couldn’t have felt more called out in here with any other choice.

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      Going through a black hole but it’s just a fisheye lens having gravel flung at it, because you forgot to budget for this particular special effect

      But don’t worry, you can absolutely pass through the Event Horizon in a man made spacecraft just so long as you have the singular force that defines the shape of the universe: gravity Love.

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        Spoilers ahead.

        I didn’t like the pacing, but whatever, that’s a style decision.

        But the whole twist at the end that justified anything that happened before just ruined it for me. It’s heavily suggested that it’s actually the humans from the future who try to save their own kind by opening the wormhole and giving humans a way off their doomed world. But the whole idea that there are ethereal beings from the future that can open multidimensional wormhole in the past but lack any way of then communicating with that past is just dumb. If you can send an interstellar superhighway through space and time, I’m sure you can send information.

        Adding insult to injury at the end they can send information. But the best thing those hyperbeings can come up with is to just take a dude into their multidimensional superphone and let him throw books and wiggle some clock hands in his daughter’s room? Like… what? That’s their plan to save humanity? “Hey, man, now that you’ve entered the black hole, nice to have you here… you can now be a haunted spirit in your daughter’s past. For a few minutes. Do something to save your people’s future. Your time starts now.” The only explanation I have come up with so far is that future humans are sadistic fucks and that this was their equivalent of taskmaster style reality TV, with them throwing popcorn at the screen where the nasa farmer struggles to somehow tries to send three words that could save all humans but has to do that with the dumbest means some asshole producer could come up with. “Aaaand he wiggles the clock!! I can’t believe it!” and the audience goes wild.

        It just destroyed the movie for me. It felt like I was sitting through the last hour of that movie in utter disbelief that this was really the great explanation, the great twist the movie was gearing towards. It’s not often that I get angry at movies while I’m in the theater, but this movie started quite well imho, just to then take turns that made me so mad about having wasted all that time on a story that was so utterly nonsensical that I was in the end no longer wondering about what was going on but only why I hadn’t picked a career in writing just to prevent that kind of crap from happening.

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          Huh it made total sense to me. It’s like love is an attracting force, a sort of fifth element if you will, that humans have some dim like nascent control over. That’s all I needed to buy it.

          But if you don’t buy that woo premise then it all falls apart. I can see how it’s a sort of rug pull given the science babble earlier in the movie.

          Obviously your opinion is correct for you. I thought it was perfect for the themes on display the rest of the movie. It’s absolutely on the softer lofi end of sci-fi, which is not everyone’s cup of tea.

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        My reason is I can’t stand the reluctant hero trope. Where, for example, a grouchy misanthropic isolated farmer is the ONLY person who can pilot this spaceship and save humanity, so he does it but grumbles the whole time. I don’t remember exactly what interstellar’s version of this was, but that’s where I bailed. No disrespect to anyone who likes it. I’m pretty picky. There are a lot of really common tropes that I avoid and I abandon movies all the time.

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          Where, for example, a grouchy misanthropic isolated farmer is the ONLY person who can pilot this spaceship and save humanity, so he does it but grumbles the whole time.

          In fairness, the enthusiastic astronauts were all reckless, foolhardy, narcissists who nearly flub the whole mission.

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          Dude was not “a farmer who is the only one who can fly the ship”, he was a retired NASA pilot (forced into retirement after the government shut down NASA) who became a farmer at a time when a global food crisis was threatening extinction. He was grouchy because farming isn’t his expertise.

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        Not OP, but my wife and I were incredibly disappointed by Interstellar after seeing how much praise it got.

        SPOILERS BELOW!!!

        First off, the pacing was waaay too fast. I felt like I was getting whiplash from how they spent like five minutes in each location. I hear people complaining about the long runtime (like the other comment that was just posted, lol), but I have exactly the opposite problem - I think this movie really needed like four hours to do everything they tried to do right.

        The biggest failing for us, though, was how ridiculously terrible and inaccurate the science was, from start to finish. From little things like needing a full multi-stage booster system to break earth’s gravity, but being able to effortlessly jet off the ocean planet with no help, to absolutely bonkers ridiculous stuff like just casually going beyond an event horizon without getting spaghettified in the process.

        So yeah, valiant attempt, a couple of really cool story ideas, and some good (but overrated) cinematography, but, while I wouldn’t go so far as to say I hated Interstellar, I would absolutely say that I didn’t like it, and that it was actively painful to watch.

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          Physicist Kip Thorne consulted on the movie. The physics are accurate.

          Miller’s planet (the ocean world) was spinning extremely rapidly and it was located just above the event horizon of the supermassive black hole, Gargantua. The rapid spin of the planet provides a slingshot effect when you take off in the direction of the spin. This is true on earth as well, and is most pronounced near the equator, but the extreme spin of Miller’s planet makes it much easier to achieve orbit.

          The proximity of the black hole is the cause of the extreme tidal forces which create the tidal waves on the planet, but would also help them take off for the same reason (tidal forces affect all masses moving in the gravitational field).

          The lack of spaghettification is a known and established fact with supermassive black holes. What you were expecting is what happens with stellar black holes (10x mass of the sun to 100x), not with supermassive black holes (millions to billions of times the mass of the sun) whose event horizons are much larger and therefore have less extreme gravitational gradients (the source of spaghettification).

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            For me it was the part about how at the center of a supermassive black hole is a hypercube that let’s you see and manipulate all time and space…

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              It’s a little known fact of physics, but yes, at the center of every supermassive blackhole is a hypercube that lets you manipulate time and space. It’s just not commonly accepted since so far very few people have made it there and back.

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                it’s not always a hypercube tho! It can be other shapes too!

                Mine was a form of a hyper-dyno-shaped nuggie!:D

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              Not all time and space, just those moments and places that you have a strong connection to via power of love, duh

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            Then the spin should have reduced gravitational effect, created a “lean” toward the equator of the spin, created a bulge at the equator where the water would be slung outward due to the spin…

            There’s all kinds of problems with this planet assuming a slingshot effect to help reach escape velocity based on the fuel requirement differential in this hypothetical.

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        Not OP but I thought it kinda sucked, and I love most Nolan movies.

        Interstellar is really episodic, and has this really weird tone problem between fun space adventure and daddy/daughter basic communication breakdowns. The core of the story felt like “instead of therapy together I’ll just go save the world via spaceship and talk to you from beyond the pale”

        Idk, I don’t hate it or anything, it just didn’t seem as good as the hype to me. Some cool visuals for sure.

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      It is so fucking boring my god. Why does it need to be 3 hours long? I cant remember a single scene of that movie that evoked any amount of emotion in me.

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      Solaris was genuinely very difficult to follow. As an avante garde Sci Fi piece, incredible. You can draw a straight line from Solaris to a hundred Star Trek and Dr Who and Battle Star Galactica episodes. Absolutely littered with cool ideas.

      As… entertainment? It was a bumpy road. The execution was rough, even by the standards of the era.

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        Everything I have read by Stanisław Lem was damn good. I should pull Golem XIV from the shelve and see if it aged well considering the current AI developments…

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    Anything that Nolan isn’t involved with is a winner. He’s an awful director who makes cold forgettable characters.

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      /c/UnpopularOpinion

      Nolan’s a highly talented auteur cinematographier.

      He’s doing Magical Realism with SciFi pastiche, he’s always got a great cast, infinity zillion dollar budget with stunning special effects.

      Absolutely nothing clever or interesting to say with his work. It all ends at the level of two DudeBros snorting a line of coke and pretending to be smart.

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      If it’s not in black and white, with two middle aged French people sharing a cigarette after some loveless sex while looking out a window and quoting poetry, I don’t want anything to do with it.