• antonim@lemmy.world
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        4 hours ago

        Russian won’t turn into a shitshow because of people not using ë, that’s catastrophism. No language has turned into a shitshow, for that matter, English functions well too.

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            3 hours ago

            What is the thing that’s supposed to happen? You said English already is a ‘shitshow’ (not a thing that could’ve happened in our lifetime, but long ago), but it isn’t a shitshow, and that’s what I responded to, so you’re moving the topic here.

            • Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org
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              It is a shitshow. I mean, what the fuck with the totally inconsistent, incoherent and incongruent phonetics (and grammar, and syntax, and spelling…)? That meme (“it’s spelled ‘Liverpool’, it’s pronounced ‘Manchester’”) is more of an anecdote than a joke.

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                3 hours ago

                The only thing you listed that could be described as particularly inconsistent is spelling. But non-phonemic spelling is found in countless other languages and doesn’t really hamper the language. It might even be helpful for languages with diverse accents. English could be revised on some points with no issue (<island>, and some other cases), but overall it’s functional.

                As for the rest, I don’t know how phonetics could be inconsistent. Like, is it inconsistent that frogs is pronounced as /frogz/, but clocks as /kloks/, so the -s plural ending is realised differently in different words? As for grammar, what about it? Do you think it’s unusual for a language to have “irregular” forms such as buy-bought rather than *buyed? Tons of languages have them, I doubt if there’s any without “irregularities” at all.

                (Note: syntax is a part of grammar.)

                Viewing these things as a shitshow, as something particularly negative or even harmful, is literally anti-scientific.

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        10 hours ago

        I wonder how a person with such a great love to his rodnoй яzõk , can have no interest in it at all (or how any languages work in modern standards) , meanwhile commenting stupid shit like this.