• chilicheeselies@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    When in rome, do as the Romans do. You may not agree with it, but it’s how it works here and not doing it is taking advantage of a worker not the restaurant

    • TBi@lemmy.world
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      44 minutes ago

      So the restaurant owner is taking advantage of the worker but suddenly it’s my fault?

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      2 hours ago

      Most people from a non tipping culture don’t know how to tip. They don’t know how much, is it inappropriate, do the stuff get it or does management steal it. Really is a big deal.

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        51 minutes ago

        Not tipping doesn’t help us get there, it just means some server worked and didn’t get paid.

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            14 minutes ago

            They usually do get paid. Not paying them until they can’t make rent and quit doesn’t result in the owner paying a living wage.

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              9 minutes ago

              Yeah, as long ng as the owner can find people to exploit. Again the solution is solidarity against the exploiters… Whichever form is chosen.

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      3 hours ago

      you mean “when in a dystopian exploitative society, do as the dystopian exploitative societies do”? :)

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      6 hours ago

      No it’s not. The only one taking advantage of workers is the restaurant owner.

      If tipping is optional, why the hell would anyone “choose” to pay more? Imagine if I sold you a phone and said you can buy this phone for $500 or you can optionally pay an extra $100 and get literally exactly the same product. That’s tipping.

      If tipping is mandatory, then make it clear beforehand that there is a mandatory fee and how much it is.

      • TBi@lemmy.world
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        42 minutes ago

        Or just gasp include it in the price like civilised countries…

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      6 hours ago

      people like you, believing this kind of bullshit propaganda pushed by business owners lobby, are the reason why things are getting so bad in the US… next thing you’ll tell me unions are bad and affordable healthcare is some communist bullshit.

      if the business is not paying their employees livable wage they should not work there and the business should go bankrupt. yes, there are many people who wouldn’t find any other job right now. and they can choose to suffer temporary unemployment now or accept to live indentured life forever.

      history clearly shows that workers not accepting unbearable conditions ultimately leads to improvement for everyone. guilt-tripping customers into giving alm to employees instead of paying them actual wages is just postponing the inevitable.