• Rioting Pacifist@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    MLs are always controlled opposition (and always have been), just look at how quickly they team up with capitalists to take out any real socialists.

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        20 minutes ago

        Spain, Korea, Ukraine, the Soviets.

        Any attempt at putting the workers in charge instead of the state is met with violence.

        It’s not controlled in the sense that capitalist control them, it’s just controlled in the sense that the state requires private property & structurally state-capitalism is closer to liberal-capitalism, so you get less pushback from the cops, bureaucrats, bosses & other assorted middle managers that still get to live off labor of the workers.

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          2 hours ago

          Haha I’d never heard that take before. I’m curious about two things. 1) How do you define MLs? 2) What would real socialism entail? I’m guessing with those answers I should have a good idea what you’re talking about.