• Hawanja@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    Yeah so I asked “What has the left actually accomplished” not “what ineffectual actions are they doing to stop fascim after it’s already taken power.”

    The legalization of cannabis can’t be solely attributed to leftists, but they certainly contributed to that accomplishment as well. And the decriminalization of psychedelics even moreso.

    So those things were decriminalized by passing laws, correct? Kinda sounds like something you have to be politically active and vote for. Or do laws magically just pass when you stand around in the street with a cardboard sign?

    Now let’s flip the question on you. What have the Democrats actually accomplished in the last 30 years?

    Well, there was that thing you tried to take credit for, which is legalizing marijuana. We can also add legalizing gay marriage on top of that, those are two things that come to mind.

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        14 hours ago

        I’m just sick of people trying to blame me for the actions of the people I voted against when they themselves were too lazy to turn out and do the absolute minimum to combat fascism

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          Voting for a party guilty of participation in genocide, and a candidate who vowed “no change” from those genocidal policies, is not “the absolute minimum to combat fascism”.

          To the contrary, it is enabling fascism… and really, much worse things than simple fascism. It’s just not enabling those things within the USA as much. So you’re willing to inflict those evils upon people overseas if it preserves your privilege and comfort at home, and the privilege and comfort of those who you care for.

          You are valuing the your own comfort and the comfort of members of your in-group as being higher priority (supreme) above the lives of other human beings. You are prioritizing your own comfort and privilege over the literal ethnic-based mass-murder of other humans (and yes, ICE is a terrible American Gestapo under Trump, but it is still not remotely comparable to what the Zionazis have done in Palestine).

          To reach such a conclusion, you must hold white supremacist values, at least to the extent that the values of the west are defined by the white ruling class. Yes, even if you are not white. You need to purge those from your mind.

          And that’s also not me insulting you. It’s totally normal for someone who grew up (I assume) under American propaganda. It’s incredibly subtle and incredibly effective.

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            3 hours ago

            Saying that people are valuing their own or their loved ones’ “comfort and privilege” (which sounds like they value having brunch or something) rather than - in a lot of cases - personal safety, and that they hold white supremacist values, is going to come off as an insult no matter what.

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          13 hours ago

          voting for Democrats is enabling fascism. If you think voting is so important why not vote 3rd party or write a candidate in and encourage others to do the same? why not vote for people who represent your class interests or at least people who do not enable and support genocide

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            3 hours ago

            Quick question. Are all American elections first-past-the-post or are there some elections where one could vote for a third party without risking a vote split or something?