I’m just sick of people trying to blame me for the actions of the people I voted against when they themselves were too lazy to turn out and do the absolute minimum to combat fascism
voting for Democrats is enabling fascism. If you think voting is so important why not vote 3rd party or write a candidate in and encourage others to do the same? why not vote for people who represent your class interests or at least people who do not enable and support genocide
Quick question. Are all American elections first-past-the-post or are there some elections where one could vote for a third party without risking a vote split or something?
Voting for a party guilty of participation in genocide, and a candidate who vowed “no change” from those genocidal policies, is not “the absolute minimum to combat fascism”.
To the contrary, it is enabling fascism… and really, much worse things than simple fascism. It’s just not enabling those things within the USA as much. So you’re willing to inflict those evils upon people overseas if it preserves your privilege and comfort at home, and the privilege and comfort of those who you care for.
You are valuing the your own comfort and the comfort of members of your in-group as being higher priority (supreme) above the lives of other human beings. You are prioritizing your own comfort and privilege over the literal ethnic-based mass-murder of other humans (and yes, ICE is a terrible American Gestapo under Trump, but it is still not remotely comparable to what the Zionazis have done in Palestine).
To reach such a conclusion, you must hold white supremacist values, at least to the extent that the values of the west are defined by the white ruling class. Yes, even if you are not white. You need to purge those from your mind.
And that’s also not me insulting you. It’s totally normal for someone who grew up (I assume) under American propaganda. It’s incredibly subtle and incredibly effective.
I agree with the exact opposite of this.
In 2024 the choice of which candidate would lead us to fascism was obvious to anyone paying attention. The left in this country decided to take it’s ball and go home, and now we’re living through the consequences. The left does not deserve to walk away from this blunder without criticism.
Even if I grant that voting for democrats somehow in some twistabout way “supported facism” (which is bullshit,) it was plain to see for anyone with a brain what would happen if the actual facist, you know, the one posting god damned nazi memes in his campaign videos, was allowed to take power. Now we’re living through the consequences of the inaction of the left to get up off it’s ass and do something.
Okay, so the left caused your candidate to lose. Aside from the fact that Holocaust Harris would’ve lost even if she received every single third party vote except RFK’s, even including Libertarians who are usually more right-leaning, sure, let’s go with that narrative anyway.
The left is the reason your candidate lost, because the left did not find your candidate worth voting for.
Sounds like you should listen to the demands of the left if you want to stop losing then. And we demand an end to all aid to genocidal Israel and no corporate campaign donors.
Otherwise, you can keep losing. You may view Dems as being an obviously-better option than Republicans. I do not, so if you do not convince me otherwise, I literally could not care less if your party continues losing.
Run better candidates if you want to win. That’s how democracies work, right?
Tell me, what did you actually think would happen to Palestine if Trump won?
Secondly, of the two (Trump or Harris), which would be more open/vulnerable to political pressure from the left?
Be honest, use reason, tell the truth.
Saying that people are valuing their own or their loved ones’ “comfort and privilege” (which sounds like they value having brunch or something) rather than - in a lot of cases - personal safety, and that they hold white supremacist values, is going to come off as an insult no matter what.
They value the abstract risk to their personal safety, and that of their loved ones, over the assured mass-murder of Palestinians. I stand by what I said.
I’m just sick of people trying to blame me for the actions of the people I voted against when they themselves were too lazy to turn out and do the absolute minimum to combat fascism
You voted for fascism
Like I said, I’m sick of people like you. I voted to stop facsim. You stood around with your balls in your hands.
voting for Democrats is enabling fascism. If you think voting is so important why not vote 3rd party or write a candidate in and encourage others to do the same? why not vote for people who represent your class interests or at least people who do not enable and support genocide
Quick question. Are all American elections first-past-the-post or are there some elections where one could vote for a third party without risking a vote split or something?
Voting for a party guilty of participation in genocide, and a candidate who vowed “no change” from those genocidal policies, is not “the absolute minimum to combat fascism”.
To the contrary, it is enabling fascism… and really, much worse things than simple fascism. It’s just not enabling those things within the USA as much. So you’re willing to inflict those evils upon people overseas if it preserves your privilege and comfort at home, and the privilege and comfort of those who you care for.
You are valuing the your own comfort and the comfort of members of your in-group as being higher priority (supreme) above the lives of other human beings. You are prioritizing your own comfort and privilege over the literal ethnic-based mass-murder of other humans (and yes, ICE is a terrible American Gestapo under Trump, but it is still not remotely comparable to what the Zionazis have done in Palestine).
To reach such a conclusion, you must hold white supremacist values, at least to the extent that the values of the west are defined by the white ruling class. Yes, even if you are not white. You need to purge those from your mind.
And that’s also not me insulting you. It’s totally normal for someone who grew up (I assume) under American propaganda. It’s incredibly subtle and incredibly effective.
I agree with the exact opposite of this.
In 2024 the choice of which candidate would lead us to fascism was obvious to anyone paying attention. The left in this country decided to take it’s ball and go home, and now we’re living through the consequences. The left does not deserve to walk away from this blunder without criticism.
Even if I grant that voting for democrats somehow in some twistabout way “supported facism” (which is bullshit,) it was plain to see for anyone with a brain what would happen if the actual facist, you know, the one posting god damned nazi memes in his campaign videos, was allowed to take power. Now we’re living through the consequences of the inaction of the left to get up off it’s ass and do something.
Okay, so the left caused your candidate to lose. Aside from the fact that Holocaust Harris would’ve lost even if she received every single third party vote except RFK’s, even including Libertarians who are usually more right-leaning, sure, let’s go with that narrative anyway.
The left is the reason your candidate lost, because the left did not find your candidate worth voting for.
Sounds like you should listen to the demands of the left if you want to stop losing then. And we demand an end to all aid to genocidal Israel and no corporate campaign donors.
Otherwise, you can keep losing. You may view Dems as being an obviously-better option than Republicans. I do not, so if you do not convince me otherwise, I literally could not care less if your party continues losing.
Run better candidates if you want to win. That’s how democracies work, right?
Tell me, what did you actually think would happen to Palestine if Trump won?
Secondly, of the two (Trump or Harris), which would be more open/vulnerable to political pressure from the left?
Be honest, use reason, tell the truth.
Saying that people are valuing their own or their loved ones’ “comfort and privilege” (which sounds like they value having brunch or something) rather than - in a lot of cases - personal safety, and that they hold white supremacist values, is going to come off as an insult no matter what.
I can live with that.
They value the abstract risk to their personal safety, and that of their loved ones, over the assured mass-murder of Palestinians. I stand by what I said.