Let’s just declare victory after losing!
Is Trump going to say that Iran agreed to his terms without any proof? Is he going to bomb them again for not respecting the terms they agreed to in his mind?
So let me get this straight: You went to war to make things worse?
Yeah, for MAGA, that tracks.
Right, right… Now, about all that child rape…
“uhhhh…ummmmm…well…ya see like I said I can take Cuba. I think they will let me.”
Poker player: better hand not vital to stop playing game.
The sooner they stop fake negotiations and leave, the better for the world. Reopening straights is extremely easy for peaceful nations. Cheaper than insurance. Cheaper than not getting/selling oil and other goods.
The guy throwing military parades for himself capitulates and leaves Europe to clean up the mess. Much Wow
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The MAGA US needs to lose this one.
Done and done. This was admitting defeat.
What does that even mean? The world economy, you and me and other innocent people, wants and needs the strait to be open.
i don’t want or need the strait open. i need trump in jail (or a coffin).
You don’t need to eat food which needs fertilizer? Or you don’t care if your food costs more, because the fertilizer transit had to pay Iran a toll?
And even if you don’t personally care about yourself, you don’t care about the poor indian worker, who pay a significant part of his income for food?
i care about the poor indian worker. i didn’t start a was that would INEVITABLY cause an oil crisis. if trump gets away with iran, he will fucking do this again and again and again. the poor indian worker will be hurt by trump’s greed and stupidity this war, and the next war, and the next war. that, or we do something about trump. when trump’s a corpse and his admin is in jail, the strait will open the same day
when trump’s a corpse and his admin is in jail, the strait will open the same day
So you think that the terrorist mullahs Iran are just the nicest of people, who don’t care about the $billions of revenue from strait tolls, but just want Trump gone to help the world?
Do i think iranian mullahs are nice people? Nope, i’m not an idiot. However, the strait was open before trump attacked. When the USA is no longer at war with iran, Iran will have no reason to continue attacking shipping. Iran wanted to make a deal: no nuclear weapons in exchange for lifting sanctions. In fact, that exact deal once existed: it was enacted by Obama. Trump, the incompetent fucking idiot, tore it up. Iran was trying to make another deal when America’s talking asshole ordered the attack. Let shit-for-brains wear this one: the Iran war is all on Trump.
Iran didn’t start the war. Any benefits Iran is currently getting are a result of US initiative.
Iran is stealing money from third parties, if Iran is going to toll all ships. There is no moral argument for Iran’s actions here. “US was mean to me” is not an excuse for Iran to be mean to other people.
Get out fed
The straight being open is not mutually exclusive to the US and Israel being defeated. It just means that they tuck tail and accept that in the new order they created Iran has veto power over the straight so they need to stop fucking with it.
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If you spend billions and end up with that path blocked, I don’t think you can say you “won”.
Of course you can finish the war capitulating or losing too.
I’m starting to think either Trump or his acolytes don’t really think.
MAGA are virtuosically ignorant people who literally think the Truth is simply what they declare it to be, no matter how delusional that truth is to everybody else in the world.
you can say you “won”.
He didn’t say it, he declared it!
We did it!
Let’s celebrate at Epstein’s… Oh wait
This “Trump” fellow may not be the genius he purports to be
Cool we’ve entered the, “I don’t want it anyway” phase of this bullshit. not sure where this places us in the timeline, but we all know the last step is hyping the massive victory of fixing the problem created by the administration.
The Narcissist’s Prayer:
That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal. <-- We are here
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.We’ll move on to the next step once he figures out who to pin the blame on for this. I am guessing he can’t throw Vance under the bus for it since he’s probably on record for saying it was a bad idea. Miller or Hegseth maybe?
I also don’t see a drawdown happening any time soon, but the market manipulation will continue to work for as long as wall street is willing to kick the football. Not that I care what happens to the fat cats, but my 401k portfolio is not looking great right now either.
I am guessing he can’t throw Vance under the bus for it since he’s probably on record for saying it was a bad idea. Miller or Hegseth maybe?
As far as I can tell, Trump’s mental decline is so advanced that he can no longer create coherent lies. Some of the messaging around the Iran was has been mindbogglingly and transparently stupid.
So I don’t think Trump will be limited by small details like blaming someone who is “on record for saying it was a bad idea”.
Can they declare him not mentally competent or something and then this emo douche with eyeliner can try to fix this together with the alcoholic?
Jus an idea…
They can, but the Republicans are going to Weekend at Bernie’s him until the 2028 election. He is their king and the only way a king is replaced is after their death. Be it natural or otherwise.
this is what gets me. He has to go but so do the republicans. Its been a slide for them for a long time but this should be the line that causeses all citizens to not vote for the party. Im not telling conservative folks to not be conservative but they need to get together and get back to traditional conservative principles like pay as you go and low deficits (no matter if they are the ones in power or not) and make a new party. It needs to be sincere about its ideals and not about just being in power to be in power.
My rationalization for why they are doing that is that vance has a better chance at holding the reigns after 47 croaks (incumbant advantage), so its important to the GOP to make sure he makes it to the 50%+1 day line of his term so that vance can run for 2 full terms of his own plus the rest of 47s term. The issue is that vance is not the cult of personality and 47 kicking the bucket will set off an internal power squabble that may end up spoiling their ticket while their hemmoraging support because 47 and his ilk are a cavalcade of fuck-ups.
The problem is that Trump’s supporters are literally a cult. The GOP are the ones with the power to unseat Trump, and the GOP know that their voters will tear them apart if they unseat Trump. Hence this continuing clown show of least resistence by the GOP.
An alternative is Trump stepping down voluntarily. But in best narcissist style, Trump believes he is the best man for the job, any job. “Only I can fix it”. And the pathological lack of self insight only gets worse as Trump mentally declines.
Watch the markets.
He is going to 180 on this later today or tomorrow. He may have thought he’d get an easy win and leave like in Venezuela. Now that it’s clear that won’t happen, he thinks he can declare that he doesn’t need a deal after all and leave.
This is not a real estate deal and he can’t just leave. There are too many powerful people in the world who will find this outcome unacceptable. He is stuck and we are stuck there with him.
If he doesn’t open it within a couple of months at most, the bulk of oil is going to start being traded in yuan (it’s already starting to happen) the gulf states are going to start liquidating their U.S. debt and the investments they’ve made across the global economy. The problem could spiral out of control really fast. The guy’s a total idiot, but I assume they’ve explained it to him with little cartoons or something and he’s finally understood that this time he can’t just walk away and claim he won
You seem to expect that those around him understand the situation any better. This term, he purged anybody who knows shit about anything. Hell, he put a fucking Fox News host in charge of the military.
