Let’s just declare victory after losing!

  • 8oow3291d@feddit.dk
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    4 hours ago

    What does that even mean? The world economy, you and me and other innocent people, wants and needs the strait to be open.

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        4 hours ago

        You don’t need to eat food which needs fertilizer? Or you don’t care if your food costs more, because the fertilizer transit had to pay Iran a toll?

        And even if you don’t personally care about yourself, you don’t care about the poor indian worker, who pay a significant part of his income for food?

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          i care about the poor indian worker. i didn’t start a was that would INEVITABLY cause an oil crisis. if trump gets away with iran, he will fucking do this again and again and again. the poor indian worker will be hurt by trump’s greed and stupidity this war, and the next war, and the next war. that, or we do something about trump. when trump’s a corpse and his admin is in jail, the strait will open the same day

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            3 hours ago

            when trump’s a corpse and his admin is in jail, the strait will open the same day

            So you think that the terrorist mullahs Iran are just the nicest of people, who don’t care about the $billions of revenue from strait tolls, but just want Trump gone to help the world?

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              Do i think iranian mullahs are nice people? Nope, i’m not an idiot. However, the strait was open before trump attacked. When the USA is no longer at war with iran, Iran will have no reason to continue attacking shipping. Iran wanted to make a deal: no nuclear weapons in exchange for lifting sanctions. In fact, that exact deal once existed: it was enacted by Obama. Trump, the incompetent fucking idiot, tore it up. Iran was trying to make another deal when America’s talking asshole ordered the attack. Let shit-for-brains wear this one: the Iran war is all on Trump.

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              Iran didn’t start the war. Any benefits Iran is currently getting are a result of US initiative.

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                3 hours ago

                Iran is stealing money from third parties, if Iran is going to toll all ships. There is no moral argument for Iran’s actions here. “US was mean to me” is not an excuse for Iran to be mean to other people.

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                  Lmao. Iran has been very clear that if you are homies with the US, you are not friends with Iran. “Third party” is crazy. Again, none of this would have happened if the US didn’t force Iran’s hand.

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      3 hours ago

      The straight being open is not mutually exclusive to the US and Israel being defeated. It just means that they tuck tail and accept that in the new order they created Iran has veto power over the straight so they need to stop fucking with it.