I was describing my insane in-laws for the record.

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    21 hours ago

    I really don’t understand why people find it acceptable to make a joke where the punchline is accusing someone of having a mental illness.

    To me there is very little difference between that and putting someone down.

    Why is it funny to accuse someone with making a minor correction of having OCD?

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      10 hours ago

      Oh, and maybe you should consider not thinking of the term “OCD” as an insult. Maybe that’s where our difference in perspectives lie: I simply don’t consider it an insult, but what it actually is: a mental condition (or perhaps it’s more accurate to say it’s a symptom that’s indicative of one). People are okay talking about depression, ADHD, etc. - why not the same for OCD?

      It’s a factual condition, not an insult - unless someone decides to make it one, which unfortunately happens all the time. Some people use the word “Jew” as a slur - does that then make all utterances of the word a slur? No, that’s absurd. Intent matters, and the same applies with any other words/terms like OCD.

      I suggest listening to and/or watching some early George Carlin routines like Class Clown. Much of his comedy was based upon how words are used and interpreted.

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        9 hours ago

        I don’t think of it as an insult generally, but it reads like an insult in this context to me since you certainly weren’t using it a clinical sense and it doesn’t land as a joke imo; now you can say that’s all on me if you want but communication has 2+ parties involved. Even if it wasn’t meant as an insult, it is still ableist language in this context imo and I will call it out even if it makes people uncomfortable.

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          9 hours ago

          Well, I’ll admit I’m older and perhaps less sensitive to that notion than I should be - particularly as I never heard that term until the past decade or so. There are times when I can definitely see the issue, and then there’s times like this that I just don’t - or just think the sensitivity towards the topic is being taken too far beyond reasonable expectations. Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on the point.

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      13 hours ago
      1. BECAUSE it was a “minor correction” made in a context where most would not consider it important or even germane as it was a casual conversation, not a classroom or office setting.

      2. Again, you chose the harshest possible interpretation with “accuse” - as if I were attacking, berating, or belittling them. I didn’t say anything aggressive like “Who cares? Take your OCD issues & stuff it where the sun don’t shine!” (I’m sure worse could be said, too - I’m just not thinking in such a manner.)

      3. I (and many others, it seems to me) find it better to be accepting and honest of one’s own faults - more trust and respect is earned from others that way, as well as gaining a level of self-confidence from facing your demons. If the person who I was addressing actually has an issue with OCD (or any other mental divergence from “the norm”), then acknowledging and accepting that fact is commonly understood to be the first step towards taking control of it. If they don’t have such an issue (or think they don’t), then being made aware of how their actions come off to others isn’t a bad thing, either.

      Either way, accepting the facts of how others perceive you, and being able to laugh about how absurd or silly those interpretations can sometimes can be shows that you don’t take yourself or others too seriously, and that you know who you are and are comfortable with it. IMHO, this is a level of maturity everyone should try to reach as soon as they can because once you have that larger perspective on the world, the easier it becomes to work with it.