Woooooh. Musks security team is a gold mine. They will forever be employed because of this dudes stupidity.
if that doesnt work, he will just use one of his various 14 human shield babies.
Looking forward to seeing EU alternatives for Starlink
Alternatives would be great! My only concern is the number of satellites that have to be continually launched while older satellites are burned up after just five years. That’s thousands of satellites per service provider having to be continually replaced. Seems wasteful, but maybe I’m thinking the resource usage is greater than it really is in the grand scheme of things.
That five year figure is the time it takes to deorbit if the satellite goes dead, not the lifespan, from my understanding.
Well if Europe doesn’t do this, US or China will regardless and they won’t care about leaving junk in the space. So it’s a matter of who will profit off that. And also, the EU is doing a lot for the environment already. Maybe it’s time for other countries like India to stop throwing trash directly into rivers now? We live on the same planet. Even if EU achieves the zero-emission state, it only accounts for 5% of the population in the world, so it won’t change that much on a global scale if other countries continue refusing to cooperate
Honestly, someone hurry up and launch an alternative! Chinese are setting up one but I wouldn’t trust them either.
The French government just invested a load of money in Eutelsat to kickstart this about a month or so ago
I think they should be taken down or taken over by another entity. They were launched under the premise they were a utility and it turns out they’re being used military.
I dont mean the internet access itself but the giving and striping of access to suit a military agenda goes beyond the pervue of an organization claiming to be an ISP or commercial utility.
For starters, the Great Chinese Firewall blocks access even to lemmy
It depends, maybe they like the contents of some instances like this one
Although on some blocks I can’t disagree:
The big instances are blocked (like yours, i.e. lemmy.world) while the small ones that the CCP didn’t catch up with yet (like mine) are working fine. It’s a censorship went wrong moment
The .world domain appears to be unblocked, at least on some of the test sites.
https://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=lemmy.world
https://www.cloudwards.net/tools/chinese-firewall-test/Oh yeah, my bad. It was .ml that’s blocked. Kinda ironic given that it’s one of he most pro-CCP instances out there
What do you mean? Chinese people cant host a lemmy server? Or just the main servers worldwide arent available there?
Anyone can host, but if you can’t federate it’s of very limited value.
Oooh interesting, network bisection problems.
Can’t even watch porn with Chinese internet, westerners won’t survive a day on using that internet without a VPN.
Actually porn is what makes many Chinese start using the VPNs too
yup, they moved to PROXIES, and anti-detect browsers much like reddits getting more sophisticated detection, china is always trying to find a way to detect these methods. from what ive heard on the same forum that ban evades reddit.
This is a perfect example of why we have to confiscate the bulk of the fortunes of Sociopathic Oligarchs.
We have this guy operating his own foreign policy in a very sensitive war with nuclear weapons in the mix. The rest of the world shouldn’t have to be at the mercy of his arrogance and hubris, waiting for him to get bored with this game, and move onto the next one, hopefully before he blows up the planet.
He has been proven to be massive national and global security threat, who will only become more dangerous as he hoards more money. Just strip his citizenship, confiscate his money and his companies, and deport him to South Africa. Then use his example as a threat to other Sociopathic Oligarchs.
Oh, I remember hearing about this in 2022. There was a ton of speculation about this. I’m glad it’s been confirmed.
Hoping one day the MuskRat finds himself behind bars.
When I pointed out the first time this happened, I was pummeled in the comments by people saying that he just doesn’t want to be complicit in anything. Okay, but then why did he give Ukraine a bunch of Starlink receivers to begin with? And now this is the second or third time he’s fucked the Ukrainians by turning off the service as they’re taking back their land.
He a fucking clown. He wants his service used, but he doesn’t want any consequences. He just wants to drag the war out and add “Powered by Starlink”. He’s given himself some control over the conflict, while enriching himself for as long as it continues.
Yeah, I wasn’t really sure of his reasoning here, but I don’t think it was very good to begin with.
Unfortunately, we already know that he has way too much power for a private citizen.
I think in 2022, he still had some fans, he hadn’t quite ruined his image all the way yet, even though most of us could see the writing on the wall. It sucks you got jumped for that, though.
I’m in the “We should Nationalize Starlink without giving him a dime” camp as recompense for this crime.
why did he give Ukraine a bunch of Starlink receivers
Because those receivers were “free” for the Ukrainians but someone else paid millions for that
Imagine paying $500/month for each “free” receiver because “military applications needs maximum quality” but when the vatnik CEO gets a call from its owner "oh no today it glitched!”
He likely wants to blackmail Ukraine with it. I now have some guess why the anti-anti-corruption bill was made…
This was Elon Musk’s way of declaring himself an enemy combatant.
I was going to say there’s no rules against saying “Elon Musk should be killed” here on Lemmy, but then I saw we’re on Lemmy.world, and I think they’re trying to be the new Reddit.
(For any mods, this is not a call for violence, simply stating a thing that isn’t allowed. Please read it again if you think I made a call to violence.)
“Ukraine invaded me first” - Musk
Oh ya, Musk is still a piece of shit.
How considerate of him to remove all doubt
*<McKenzie brothers> Oh yah, a real hoser!</McKenzie brothers>
McKenzie?
Bob and Doug, from Second City television.
Didn’t want anyone to think it was cultural misappropriation or rocking and our neighbors to north. If there ever was a truer hoser than musk I’m not sure who it is
As you can see from your image, they corrected you on their name.
Heh well now that you pointed it out. Auto correct strikes again, as well as being distracted lol
Hey, that’s our word.
But it’s such a good word lol.
I legitimately grew up watching SCTV and it’s one movie spinoff. Saturday night live was good back then too. But damn that SCTV cast was epic. Moranis, Thomas, Radner, Flaherty, Leve, Short, Candy and of course O’hara
I wonder if it’s a generational thing. I grew up in Ottawa in the 90s and I don’t recall ever using it. I knew the word but it just wasn’t an everyday word for my group of friends.
Likely generational and possibly regional. There are similar things in the US. Hell honestly it may have never been a real thing on any scale.
Ya, take off eh?
We don’t claim him. He’s not a hoser, he’s just an asshole.
Fair enough
Huh, I didn’t have ‘war criminal’ on my list of Shitty Things Musk Is. Let’s just add that right below ‘Proud Nazi’
It’s depressing we had to add that background when he’s doing the salute already.
He has been a war criminal for a few years now.
since fall of '22 when he did the same thing first time, then shortly after met with putins circles in qatar.
Normally, I would have advocated for the nationalization of Starlink and SpaceX as a matter of national and global security, but it’s not like the current American regime would do any better. I’m not going to be counting on them to investigate, let alone prosecute the affairs of this Russian junkie-stooge either.
Regardless of who would do better, the entirety of SpaceX and Starlink were paid for using American taxpayer’s money and government contracts. We already paid for it, we should own it.
Ohh, just wait till they privatize weather, mail, prison. hospitals…
It’s gonna be too expensive to live on this planet for YOU.
both prisons and most hospitals are private.
Two of those are literally already privatised in America, and one more took some significant steps in that direction earlier this year.
one more took some significant steps in that direction earlier this year.
One? Last I checked, both weather and mail are both on their way to privatization.
Damn, mail too? That didn’t make international headlines the way shutting down the weather service did.
As I look out the window at rain that was in the forecast yesterday, but not this morning.
Any sources for this? I’d love to read up on it
Brain dead take honestly. Nationalization doesn’t work out 11 times out of 10. Look at NASA, SpaceX ran circles around them with a tini tiny fraction of the funding.
Nationalization does not mean it belongs to “us” it belongs to the government, an entity with motivations, incentives and desires different from “us” the people.
Could you elaborate on how SpaceX “ran circles around NASA”, seeing as how NASA basically pioneered every single piece of modern space technology, and all SpaceX is doing is fumbling to rearrange it like Legos that explode on the launch pad? Lol
Not only that,but NASA gave this knowledge away for free - to the universities that taught the people who now work for Muskler.
Yeah. These dumbasses forget that government funding is what originally set the stage and enabled any progress at all for private company-entrepreneurs who benefitted from all that publicly available knowledge, paid for by our tax dollars.
Innovation will slow to a trickle with all these government cuts because these companies literally can’t pay for anything not directly related to their bottom dollar, and none of them can see far enough past next quarter’s profits to invest in the future.
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Human knowledge is always cumulative ya dunce.
Human knowledge can be (and historically, often has been) destroyed as well as accumulated. It’s a myth originating with the Whigs that history always moved in the direction of progress. As recent political events in the US have shown, that’s not true.
nationalization doesn’t work, and it has never worked
Except, for example, in every developed-world health care delivery system, all of which massively outperform the private-sector US system both on cost and on outcomes. Likewise, fire departments, interstate highway systems, public water supplies, armies, etc, etc.
So before calling someone a dunce, you might do well to learn more about the many things you don’t know.
Well I never said anything about progress, I said it’s cumulative. We never destroy more than we have accumulated. None of the knowledge we have today would exist without the knowledge of our earliest of ancestors when Homo sapiens was still thousands of years away. That being said, looking at the sheer amount of time we’ve been accumulating knowledge even if we had a thousand years of absolute barbarity and massive ignorance, the statement that knowledge tends towards progress would still be true. The present is a blip in the scale of human history.
To address your other point. Yes I’ll admit that I was too universalistic in my argument in the heat of the moment so to speak. But the big caveat is that it does not necessarily lead to, and most always doesn’t lead to better service for end user. It’s a trade off in most cases. But I’ll never argue in favor of privatized healthcare or education for example. The loss in efficiency is simply not enough to justify the real human cost of the alternative. But cutting edge technology that is not essential, such as space travel, computers etc, belong in the private market where the right incentives to make improvements exist.
The whole point is that SpaceX’s contributions have been minimal… and have still been paid for by tax dollars anyways with all the contracts they’re getting. Their big thing is supposed to be reusable rockets… guess what, NASA already pioneered the concept of reusable spacecraft with their space shuttle.
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20200001093/downloads/20200001093.pdf
I’m just gonna reply to everyone with this, since it drives my point home and comes from NASA themselves. You can read it or not if you want, but my point is that SpaceX reduced costs in a way NASA by itself was not capable of doing. The main reason as you might imagine is the proper incentives were not there in the same way that they exist for private industry. Look at Section 3 point B. Institutional causes and cures of very high space launch cost.
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I think you severely discount NASA’s achievements. I would wager the stagnation of NASA and the subsequent rise of SpaceX was largely due to a lack of funding for NASA and waning public interest and lack of leadership.
I doubt the public would have tolerated the idea blowing up rockets until it worked as a good use of tax payer dollars. So did NASA fail us, or did the public fail NASA?
Section 3 Point B.
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20200001093/downloads/20200001093.pdf
Think objectively about things, don’t just say things to echo the hivemind.
Fuck off with the notion that everything that contradicts your opinion is the “hivemind.” It is supremely condescending and toxic to pretend you’re the only one capable of independent thought.
Did I ever say or imply that everything that contradicts my opinion is of the hive mind? Because I don’t think I did. But this particular trope of trying to flatten any of the achievements of Musk’s companies simply because they are associated with him and calling for their nationalization is a tiresome talking point of the online “left” that simply parrots whatever everyone else “on their side” is supposed to think because it has leftie vibes. It’s as brain dead a take as any you would find on a Magatard community.
And I do need to point out that nationalization is not inherently socialist or left wing at all.
They keep giving contracts to SpaceX because that’s the way the budgets are mandated from congress. They have X amount of money to distribute. Everything goes to generally the lowest bidder, and because there are only a handful of options, they have to keep using one contractor to produce their parts because it’s even more expensive to keep switching.
So drop the attitude. Usually the worst bidder gets the job, and it ends up costing more money after everything is said and done.
Section 3 Point B.
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20200001093/downloads/20200001093.pdf
I actually am skeptical of nationalization. I think the free market is more efficient in most situations.
But if you think SpaceX is running circles around NASA, well that’s so ridiculous that I’m starting to doubt myself.
They did though, they massively cut costs of launching a rocket, which is again the real barrier for space exploration, especially commercially viable space exploration. It’s not clear that NASA could have done that seeing how their costs remained roughly the same for decades, but don’t take it from me, take it from NASA themselves:
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20200001093/downloads/20200001093.pdf
What’s your counter argument for saying they didn’t run circles around NASA?
All the explosions.
That’s bound to happen every now and then. At least it hasn’t happened with people inside.
If Tesla is any indication, it’s only a matter of time.
Well the engineers at SpaceX are generally more responsible and more concerned with security than Tesla, if only because the hardware is so expensive. But yes, it could happen any of these days.
Not tough to see how you ended up permabanned on reddit.
How’d you know that, recognized the username?
I looked at his acct and it was the subject of one of his last posts.
It wasn’t by calling out people spouting takes they haven’t thought through for more than 5 minutes because they fit the vibes they like.
Yeah boy get them boots deep I like the sloppy way you kiss that leather.
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Judging by the way they spelled “teeny,” I can’t help but wonder if they might also be familiar with the Cyrillic alphabet
El problema principal de estúpidos como tú es asumir que puedes inferir absolutamente nada de la persona detrás de un username en una plataforma total y absolutamente anónima. Cara de cabron huelebicho.
At some point, someone’s going to figure out where that on/off button is and turn the tables around on him. History dictates you can only piss so many people off.
He sees the Russian oligarchs, basically medieval duchies where they’re a law unto themselves (unless they piss off papa Putin, then it’s out the window) and thinks that’s a pretty neat deal.
Then he should go live in fucking Russia
For everything that Musk touches there has to be some alternative.
He touched Amber Heard…
Too bad she didn’t shit in his bed… 💩
turns out hes crazier than she is. heard is good company with vince mchmon though.
confirmed Elon musk shit in Johnny depps bed.
This was already known back then, but it is good to bring it to the front again.
I do kind of wonder if this is a “revenge” article against Musk for him firing up the epstein “debate” on his twitter posting spree.
The Kherson episode is distinct from an earlier report of an incident that purportedly occurred that same September, involving Crimea just to the south, and raised concerns about Musk’s ability to influence the conflict in Ukraine.
Reuters isn’t a Trump mouthpiece.
