The Graphene team think its flawed: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-standard-privacysecurity-patches-and-protections-arent-private/5
Could you please post a specific comments that refer to it or summary? I am not reading the entire conversation.
I wish I could get a degoogled pixel without giving google any money.
You could get an used Google pixel then install graphene OS.
Buying second hand google phones still profits to Google indirectly, since it allows people who buy them new to resell them easily (and thus encourages them to buy new pixels).
Google indirectly, since it allows people who buy them new to resell them easily (and thus encourages them to buy new pixels).
That is an outside factor that isn’t a guaranteed outcome. Many people sell phones that they’re no longer interested in after trying them out.
Similarly, you using any Android phone with any Android ROM benefits Google indirectly, because it advertises their OS. And because it may support the development of AOSP, which of course is beneficial for Google.
Or you accessing any website that uses any google services for anything benefits Google indirectly, because it’s traffic for them, even if no valuable data is gathered.
Virtually anything you do is likely to benefit mega corporations like Google. It’s almost impossible to live a reasonably good life without benefitting them. It’s about finding a balance and cutting their benefits to the point where they’re unsustainable long-term.
buy an used or refurbished pixel
It’s still giving google money indirectly.
Still waiting on a modern flagship with fully functional mainline Linux support. At least Fairphone tries, but AFAIK none of their phones have 100% functionality with a mainline kernel.
Having to rely on old kernel versions that will go EOL means that security issues will crop up that cannot be solved.
the Fairphone (Gen 6) is the only handset that really goes the distance.
And the 5, and the 4, and the 3… you can buy the other ones, writer.
Have you had any of the older Fairphones for longer? How was the experience overall?
I had the 2 and I am now with the FP4. Talking about the 2 is irrelevant now. The 4 is okay, but I had problems with ghost inputs that are annoying. It’s a common problem, they acknowledged it and sent me a new screen for free. Took 15 minutes to replace it without any difficulties. The problem is still there but it became rare so it’s Ok. I also got a new battery (the phone is about 3yo). It’s cool to have a phone that can last up to 2days again at this age. I’m on Murena OS which is ok too
It’s an advertisement. Obviously they are going to hype their latest model as the best thing to happen since the invention of sliced bread.That said,… I do want one so badly
Edit: I see you were referring to the Tech Advisor coverage
I was pretty annoyed that none of the reviews mentioned software issues, at all. Don’t get me wrong, I like the phone - but at launch it had many software problems - made me wonder if reviewers are even using the devices they’re testing for more than an hour. Fortunately with the latest patch it’s in a decent state now.
And the software issue angle is valid, unfortunately. After my Fairphone 5 was permanently bricked by a firmware update I’ll be holding off on Fairphone for a good while. Apparently the issue I had was common (lots of people talking about it in the forums) but Fairphone support took six weeks to even acknowledge my issue and never actually sorted it. Dead at 18 months. I ended up claiming on my insurance and buying a Pixel.
Pxl did do it to me… , phone bricked due to update bug when the phone has two profiles activated, never looked back at pixels…
Do you have the phone? What’s your impression of it? I’m in the market for a new phone but I’m struggling to find a device that grabs my attention. They all seem to have something that puts me off them.
It’s a good mid-range phone - nice display, sturdy build - but a little bit thicker than most phones, which is probably due to repairability. Camera is ok, but not remarkable. Battery life is perfectly fine too, I’m charging it to 80% and it lasts me two days.
Overall really nothing fancy, but at the same time I don’t feel like I’m making any big compromises considering the focus on sustainability. Software has improved a lot, still needs a bit more work - but the most glaring issue, which was stuttering/low framerate after unlocking for a good minute is gone.
How good is the sustainability in practice over a couple of years? A midrange phone is unlikely to keep up with computing power demands of new software for long.
I’m not sure, it’s my first Fairphone - time will tell. It’s guaranteed to get 7 years of updates if I’m not mistaken. I think for my use cases it will be sufficient, I don’t play games on mobile for example.
I’ll get it excited when it’s less than . $300.
Sorry, not sure about this one.
3.5mm jack?
I will have completely forgotten about this one without that.
The did one thing wrong. It was a mistake to remove it, but honestly you should forget about the Samsungs, Googles and Apples of this world. Fairphone does A LOT of things right. I can’t stand this type of nonsensical argument anymore.
It’s not nonsensical. I need a headphone jack to connect my phone to my car. It doesn’t have Bluetooth and Bluetooth sucks anyway. Which is why I also prefer my wired headphones when I’m not in my car. Combined those two things are at least 50% of what I use my phone for. It’s a simple thing to ask for and before anyone suggests it, those dongles suck.
I am using dongles on my 10 year old car and it never failed me once, there are even Bluetooth dongles. You could keep a dongle dedicated for your car and just use that. My sister replaced her car stereo with an Android Auto compatible display and it works great. I don’t disagree that removing the jack as a dumb idea. But you’re giving crap to a company that does 90% great in the hardware department. I’m giving FP a pass and overlook this.
