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    I suppose it may be time to expand the 30% tariff retaliation to anything owned by US companies.

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    I also think most people have no idea how much shit is owned by coke, so maybe they’re leaving coke on the shelves but buying some other brands owned by them instead? Also yeah Europeans sure love their coke zero and it’s gonna be tough getting everyone to stop, there’s probably correlation between liking coke and not giving a shit about politics.

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      When these companies reach certain sizes they’re almost boycott proof. Simply insane how large they’re allowed to become.

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        Coca Cola is owned by The Coca Cola Company, whose owner (or well, group with largest share) is Berkshire Hathaway Inc., owned by Warren Buffett (with his successor being Greg Abel). Ajit Jainil is a vice chairman, whose cousin was a co-CEO of the Deutsche Bank.

        Coca Cola also sponsored Trump.

        Duracell is one of the biggest part of Berkshire, but there’s way more. Some holdings and subsidiaries have sub-holdings and subsidiaries!

        It also has insurance companies which invest in policy premiums in some companies, up to many billions. Visa, Mastercard, Kraft Heinz, T-mobile, Mitsubishi, to name a few.

        Companies are evil. Every single one that’s big is one too many.

        We should develop an app, downloadable from multiple app stores, to automatically scan a product and see if it’s ultimately owned by a billionnaire and where some companies don’t have workplace democracy. And the app should offer alternatives, from which you can order. Can someone on Lemmy here do it?

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          scan a product and see if it’s ultimately owned by a billionnaire

          Unless you’re in a thrift store or flea market, the answer is yes.

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            I dunno, I feel like it is possible for a company to be worker-owned with workplace democracy, where the highest-earning worker earns only one and a half times as much as the lowest earning, instead of hundreds of times more.

            And even then, I think wages shouldn’t be a thing at all - but instead that economies should be need-focused, rather than profit-focused.

            It would be great if for example woodcutters delivered wood directly to farmers, farmers food directly to woodcutters, and truck drivers received goods directly from both, and so on.

            No wages, just cooperation without monetisation.

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              Works at the small scale, but as you grow, so does human greed.

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          Would love a personalized warning list, to add companies (and automatically any owners/siblings) that flags products as I scan them.

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            Oh hey, thanks! That’s actually pretty useful. Saved.

            It’s exactly what I’m looking for, design-wise. If the app also had a customisation option for billionnaire companies without workplace democracy and the like…

            There’s also BuyFromEU, BuyEuropean AI (that one is closest to what I meant) and Boycat, now that I looked further.

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      I am one of those who still gets cola zero :(

      At this point I think it’s an addiction, I didn’t find something else from the EU to match it and was not successful thus far to quit it entirely.

      But I’m still trying…

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    I think I wrote this recently elsewhere, but I just never drink nor desire soda. It just doesn’t even occur to me as a thing to want. When I was a kid, we mostly drank water. It’s kind of alienating to realize how many other people are seemingly fundamentally different on such a basic part of life like “drinking”

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    I do better by avoiding sodas altogether… it’s sugar in a bottle, no thanks.

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      My sister doesn’t give her kids cola because of the sugar. It just has slightly more than bought orange juice and aplle juice and all that shit.

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          That’s still a bunch of sugar with no fiber from the actual fruit to offset it.

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            That’s a different matter altogether. Just saying coke doesn’t have “slightly” more but a lot more sugar

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    I’m glad I can choose to drink that. Other places like Mexico city where potable water is fully contaminated don’t have that choice. Its usually Coca cola and other industrial beverage manufacturers the ones polluting the water or helping to reduce access to it…for obvious reasons$$$$.

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    I’ve stopped buying Coca-Cola and Pepsi. Plenty of locals make similar products.

    Neither of those companies left Russian market even though they seemed to promise to do that. That should’ve been enough reason to avoid them.

    Also, if it’s a cold beverage with coffeine you want, making your own cold brew tea is trivial: just put some tea into a container and put it in the fridge for 12-24 hours. Then remove the tea leaves and consume within 3 days. Bagged tea doesn’t taste as good but is obviously easier to filter out.

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      Agree. It is not that difficult to make correct moves. Coop Trading cola (Made by Olvi in Finland) and Nocco from Sweden are the ones my boys have to be satisfied with (previously Coca-Cola and Monster)

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        Hmm I gotta try Coop cola, the orange is good. A lot of the cheap brand colas are just awful IMO

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        I just removed an empty Coop cola and a Nocco off my desk. Can confirm they are superior

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      Most any cold, nonalcoholic drink at a restaurant is going to be owned by Coca-Cola or Pepsi. Even the iced tea. Coke and Pepsi have started disguising their soda fountains with “bespoke” brands that use real sugar. For example, Stubborn Soda is owned by Pepsi. Coke recently bought Topo Chico. Pepsi owns “Bubly” and bought out Soda Stream. Chances are you are drinking a Coke or Pepsi product without realizing it.

      Snapple group in the US owns Keurig and Dr Pepper, so I guess you could drink that or 7-up if you wanted to avoid Coke or Pepsi.

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        Even the iced tea.

        Yeah, that’s why I suggested making it yourself instead. Besides, those shop iced teas almost always have a shitload of sugar.

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    Unfortunately, they’re the only commonly-available cola with just sugar (rather than artificial sweeteners).
    I’ve done a two-pronged approach, of finding alternatives (Karma and Mate are nice), and getting ready to start making my own with a carbonate.
    But commonly, you’ll need to buy an entire 24 pack to even approach the pricing of Coca.

    What I have found is making carbonated squash often hits the spot nicely.

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    Unfortunately, my local and popular soft drink company had been bought by Coca Cola years ago. They made the drink taste bad now, which is literal enshitiffication. Not much for any remaining local alternatives to buy.

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      Having this issue also, how not buy soft drink stands which are either owned by coca cola or PepsiCo is not as simple as it sounds

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        And if you’re making your own, don’t get a SodaStream because the factories are in occupied/stolen land in Palestine. DrinkMate is a better machine anyways.

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    They call it “advertising” because “propaganda” had unsavory associations. Coca-cola is a master of prop- er, Advertising.

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    That’s one of the companies who adapt their products to regional markets and produce locally.

    The other thing is they’ve always had cooperations with fast food chains, restaurants etc, which pushes their products when it’s the only cola you can get.