• LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    13
    ·
    18 hours ago

    And if Dems take power they’ll drop their new found anti-genocide rhetoric like it’s a 2,000 lbs bomb.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      18 hours ago

      Well, you’re wrong…

      And a month before an important midterm election, it’s pretty suspect that you’re just repeating Putin’s decade old propaganda.

      Especially since you’re account is filled with equating every other option as just as bad as Putin/trump and that no one should do anything to oppose them.

      No one’s gonna fall for that shit in 2026, so the few people repeating it are hard to take seriously

      • Eldritch@piefed.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        17 hours ago

        The 2023 and 2024 bullshit is starting again. I just hope more people are inoculated to it then were back then. Because this shit isn’t going to stop before 2028 if ever.

        Harris was a horrible candidate and lost because of that. If only she was the worst we had to deal with. Lotta people still regretting being manipulated into voting for trump or abstaining in areas their votes might have mattered.

      • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        11
        ·
        18 hours ago

        WTF does this have to do with Putin? Where the fuck did that come from? I mean like… Wow. 😂

        My guy, the massive majority of deaths in this genocide happened under a Dem administration, with almost unanimous bipartisan support. Rashida TlaibNd Ilhan Omar were literally the only Dems that opposed the genocide from the start. I repeatedly watched Biden spread blood libel lies from his campaign podium, against the very people he was enacting genocide against, saying he saw Hamas behead babies with his “own eyes”.

        I absolutely think you should be opposing genocide, and that sure as fuck ain’t “voting harder”. Chump.

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              18 hours ago

              I mean, it seem to mostly be recent bans for spreading Russian propaganda…

              I don’t really need to scroll all the way thru

              • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                9
                ·
                17 hours ago

                Another meaningless pejorative for uncomfortable realities.

                “Propaganda” never implied mistruth until American reactionaries literally changed the definition during the Cold War, implying themselves as the sole purveyors of truth, anything else being propaganda, without ever having to contend with fact.

                American Exceptionalism is the dumbest fallacy imaginable.

                • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  17 hours ago

                  “Propaganda” never implied mistruth until American reactionaries literally changed the definition during the Cold War,

                  Uh…

                  That’s kind of easy to disprove buddy…

                  Hence, “any movement or organization to propagate some practice or ideology” (1790). The modern political sense (“dissemination of information intended to promote a political point of view”) dates from World War I, originally not pejorative or implying bias or deliberate deception. Meaning “material or information propagated to advance a cause, etc.” is from 1929. Related: Propagandic.

                  https://www.etymonline.com/word/propaganda

                  So you’re off by about 30 years

                  But I think the big issue is you think “propaganda” was the bad word and not “Russian”…

                  Some propaganda is for a good cause, no one is shocked by that.

                  But no propaganda from Putin is good, just like no propaganda from trump is good.

                  Russian propaganda

                  If you started posting “healthcare is a human right” propaganda, you’ll get a much different reaction.

                  But if you spread pro-putin propaganda and expect a different result than pro-trump or pro-netenyahu…

                  You’re in the wrong place.

                  No one here is going to be convinced Dems are as bad as Republicans or that Ukraine is as bad as Russia.

                  But it’s pretty clear this account isn’t going to last long. I guess I’ll see you on your next one.

                  • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    4 hours ago

                    I’m advocating, propagandizing, for democracy. Russia is defending the democratic human right of self determination after a U.S. bankrolled fascist coup.

                    Ukrainians can’t vote. All opposition parties have been banned. All opposition media has been seized. Men can’t even leave to escape the conscription thugs kidnapping them into vans like ICE agents. Busification.

                    Russia also supports Palestinian liberation. Awesome. Cool.

                    You can boil it down to one man, and that’s fine. Putin has massive support among the Russian people, more than any Republican or Democrat ever had. And they’re the only ones that matter.

                    You don’t get to tell sovereign people on the other side of the world that they “voted wrong”, for Putin, for Yanukovych, or for the countless other democratically elected leaders America has couped, overthrown, kidnapped, or murdered.

                    Our enemies were never foreign, and you’re a chump to believe that.

                    Jingoism is a distraction for small minds.

          • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            11
            ·
            18 hours ago

            Ah, so Putin made me oppose genocide. Got it. 👍

            Did Putin make you support genocide?

            Fuckin’ Putin. Errrrggg… Make up your mind.

    • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      18 hours ago

      The DNC holds the ONLY anti-genocide and pro-Palestine politicians of any significance whatsoever.

      They’re also the least hostile to the anti-genocide and pro-Palestine crowd by a COLOSSAL margin.

      Why don’t you take your 2016 delusions and shove them up your ass?

      • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        17 hours ago

        How is that when they oversaw the massive lion’s share of deaths, all while giving unflinching support and weapons? FFS, Biden repeatedly told debunked blood libel lies against the very people he was enacting genocide against, all from his campaign podium, saying he saw beheaded babies with his “own eyes”.

        Make it make sense to me. Are we even on the same planet?

        Yeah, the genocide is still unfolding, and it’s been going on for 78 years.

        Also, the DNC is only the leadership that gatekeeps actual progressives who would oppose genocide, the MOST genocidal ghouls of all the Democrats.

      • LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        edit-2
        17 hours ago

        Why would I do that? Are you an accelerationist?

        If there is an anti genocide candidate on my ballot then I’ll vote for them.

        You want to know where my line is? It’s genocide. I will not vote for a genocidal candidate.

        My house rep is Emily Randall. I will not vote. Everyone on my ballot is genocidal, in the bluest of blue districts.

        Take comfort in the fact that my vote never mattered anyways, like 90% of Americans in decided districts and states.

        If it was up for a straight referendum vote then the genocide would end tomorrow, like so many other injustices, but instead we have unanimous consensus from our supposed representatives that’s diametrically opposed to the people’s actual popular democratic mandates.

        Make that make sense.

        This is not a democracy.

        https://www.thestranger.com/news/congressional-candidate-emily-randall-loses-the-left-after-taking-a-pro-israel-stance-79578010/