Why did they do it ???
From here I would blame people who keep watching the Olympics.
Just like I blame those who keep watching football even after all the FIFA bullshit.
Corporations will do anything they can get away with with profits and so far people have been good little milking cows
Well, talking about standards… Both the FIFA and the Olympics love to be hosted by dictatorships, corrupts governments and countries using slavery to build the stadia. Next to that they don’t ban Israel, the US or China so when it comes to human rights, war crimes and crimes against humanity, they have no moral compass.
“You’re still just as bad when we banned you, if not worse, but we kinda forgot about it at this point, so…buddies?”
Russia should remain banned. However in fairness many other countries should also be banned. How can Israel or the US be allowed if Russia isn’t? Ukraine if fine, they are only defending themselves and are not the aggressor. Some others are harder to determine. As long as the US is allowed, there really isn’t any high ground to use for excluding other countries.
What about the fact that’s it’s Trump together with corrupt FIFA doing another favor to Putin so that the murderers can come to Los Angeles
EDIT: Okay, FIFA isn’t corrupt, Trump definitely has nothing to do with FIFA and countries like Russia or Israel (who are not murdering anyone) should be fully present in such events. You can stop downvoting me now.
You’re being down voted because the IOC and FIFA are two entirely separate highly corrupt world sports organisations.
My bad. I’m neither a sports guy, nor American.
I wonder how many Republicans will be having meetings with Russians on the sidelines of the Olympics……
countries at war should be banned from participating
Cheaters should be banned, but other than that I don’t see why ban anyone at all.
Funny you say that; most Russians cheat at everything, Politics, Video Games, Sports Matches by using Steroids… They would be instantly disqualified if there was a way to enforce that!
Because in Greece there was truce during the games. It’s part of the rules.
to have another reason to avoid wars
What about genocides? Man you’d have no US, Russia, Ukraine, Israel, China, most of the middle eastern Islamic countries. Pretty empty Olympics, I’d be cool with that.
How is Ukraine, in your mind, committing genocide?
yea i’d be cool with that lol
Bare minimum they should be made to stop genociding before they’re allowed back in.
Russia, Israel and China should all be treated the same.
Russia, Israel and China should all be treated the same.
Sure. The same as America.
Sounds reasonable to me.
The Russia, Israel and China are all doing their genocides on a scale far bigger than what USA is currently doing.
Therefore, be careful not to make it look like “these don’t need to excluded because USA isn’t”. Perfect is the enemy of good!
But otherwise I do agree: USA has no place in any international sports events as long as its behaving like the ass it’s been for at least the past 50 years.
I’m sure Cuba thinks the blockade on it is totally fine and doesn’t constitute a similar crime like Israel withholding aid to Palestinians. Or attacking a sovereign state and kidnapping it’s leader. Or attacking a sovereign state and killing multitudes of civilians. And that’s just the past year.
I agree Russia, China, Israel bad - but to think the US isn’t so fucking far up there with them, not just now but historically, is really not giving enough “credit” where it’s due.
Is your counter-argument seriously “I’ll now compare Palestine to Cuba”
1- I’m not comparing, there’s no comparison of a decades long genocide. I’m drawing a parallel that blockading of civilian used goods for an entire population is inherently evil/bad. It didn’t all of a sudden become evil post-2023.
2- it’s not a “counter-argument”. Someone made an opinion statement, not an argument, and I am making the argument.
Also, people confuse comparison with equation.
i mean it’s the internet. some people confuse understanding with endorsement.
A trade embargo is not the same as a blockade.
Cuba maintains trade relations with 160 different countries. The US doesn’t prevent them from trading with other countries and doesn’t block ships to and from Cuba. They just block US companies from trading with Cuban businesses.
Apart from the other answer talking about the very recent escalation, which is a physical blockade to completely starve the island, about the embargo itself: it has been voted on several times in the UN in order to stop it, but it’s always being vetoed by USrael. It’s a grave human rights violation with the explicit aim to cripple the small island in every dimension. How does the embargo actually work? It‘s not really true, that it‘s not preventing other countries from trading with Cuba, as the reality looks like this: every company that trades with the tiny island will be barred from trading with the world‘s superpower USA. Guess what happens? Almost no company does actively trade with Cuba, as it would automatically lose access to the huge US market. It‘s an economic blockade to actively prevent Cuba from developing.
Nope, it’s a blockade - the US seizes vessels that try to trade with Cuba. That’s why it’s been such big news. Have you been living under a rock?
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/20/world/americas/cuba-oil-blockade-trump.html
The U.S. military has seized ships that have supported Cuba. And in recent days, vessels roaming the Caribbean Sea in search of fuel for Cuba have come up empty or been intercepted by the U.S. authorities.
While President Trump has pledged to halt any oil headed to Cuba, the Trump administration has stopped short of calling its policy a blockade.
But it is functioning as one.
At the same time, the largest U.S. military presence in the Caribbean in decades is policing the waters around the island, fresh off its work blocking oil shipments to and from Venezuela ahead of the U.S. capture of the country’s leader, Nicolás Maduro, last month.
The Russia, Israel and China are all doing their genocides on a scale far bigger than what USA
American Exceptionalism strikes again.
You’ve got Americans blowing up hospitals and daycares in Iran, shooting up fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela, sieging Cuba to the point of mass starvation, and facilitating genocides from Libya to Afghanistan. But the pre-programmed western response is “I think the other countries are worse!” That’s all that matters. You heard the other guys were worse.
Please read the comment you are replying to before replying to it.
As I said, Americans blowing up hospitals and daycares in Iran, shooting up fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela, sieging Cuba to the point of mass starvation, and facilitating genocides from Libya to Afghanistan are such horrific things that because of them USA should be excluded from international sports events.
Facts don’t care about your "I think"s. Your “I think” is an opinion. Facts are not the same as opinions. Destroying 1000 daycares is worse than destroying 100 daycares. Organizing a human safari on Kherson streets killing hundreds upon hundreds of families doing their everyday errands is worse than shooting up tens and tens of fishing boats. Etc.
Facts don’t care about your "I think"s. Your “I think” is an opinion.
Opinions the heuristics one uses when exposed to incomplete data.
Destroying 1000 daycares is worse than destroying 100 daycares.
Throwing out a bigger number based on the allegations of serial liars is fact-based. And continuing to trust the allegations of an organization that would flatten 100 daycares on a whim is an error in judgement.
What has USA alleged about any daycares being destroyed anywhere?
I don’t know if it’s American Exceptionalism in this case so much as a failure to adjust to current year. That argument could have been made with obama-era Amereica but not today.
That argument could have been made with obama-era Amereica
Barack Obama Is A War Criminal
During his presidency, Obama approved the use of 563 drone strikes that killed approximately 3,797 people. In fact, Obama authorized 54 drone strikes alone in Pakistan during his first year in office. One of the first CIA drone strikes under President Obama was at a funeral, murdering as many as 41 Pakistani civilians. The following year, Obama led 128 CIA drone strikes in Pakistan that killed at least 89 civilians.
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The drone operations extended to Somalia and Yemen in 2010 and 2011, resulting in more destructive results. Under the belief they were targeting al-Qaida, President Obama’s first strike on Yemen killed 55 people including 21 children, 10 of which were under the age of five. Additionally, 12 women, five of them pregnant, were also among those who were murdered in this strike. These blundered acts of murder by not only President Obama, but the U.S. government, are morally reprehensible.
Even more civilian casualties came out of Afghanistan throughout Barack Obama’s time in office. In 2014, Obama began removing troops currently deployed in the country. However, instead of this action by the president being one in a pursuit of peace and stability in the region, it only acted as an opportunity to drastically increase air warfare. Afghanistan had war rained upon them by U.S. bombardment, with the administration viciously dropping 1,337 weapons on Afghanistan in 2016. In total that year, the Obama administration dropped 26,171 bombs (drone or otherwise) across seven countries: Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. The U.S., in cooperation with its allies including the Afghan government, killed 582 civilians on average annually from 2007 to 2016.
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With the exception of the wars themselves, the claim that former President Barack Obama is a war criminal also lies within the double-tap initiative. Double-tap drone strikes are as disturbing as they sound; these attacks are follow-up strikes on first responders as they rush to the bombed area trying to assist any survivors. In 2012, an attack on the Shawal Valley aimed at Taliban commander Sadiq Noor reportedly killed up to 14 people in a double-tap drone strike. These attacks are both morally and legally reprehensible, as they are conscious acts of murder against civilians.
So much of what Obama presided over was an extension of the Bush, Clinton, and Reagan policies which were themselves extensions of our wars in Vietnam and Korea. What separates Obama from Trump largely boils down to volume. But the policies were no different than Putin’s illegal actions in Crimea and Chechnya. Or Netanyahu’s engineered famine in Gaza and the West Bank.
yeah, what a lot of statesians fail to gather is that regardless of how our internal politics change depending on which party is in power, our international politics are generally consistent.
So we can do genocide as long as it’s only a little genocide?
That wasn’t a defense of the US. It was pointing out that while the US is bad, others are worse. They even closed out saying they agree US shouldn’t be allowed in internationally competition. Nobody should be genociding, some are genociding harder than others, all should be banned.
It was pointing out that while the US is bad, others are worse.
How exactly is China worse than USA? Otherwise I agree.
It wasn’t my claim, but I would imagine OP maybe referring to the active Uyghur and Turkic Muslim genocide. The US government and by proxy the military commit numerous atrocities. The most recent action in Iran being extremely relevant. As bad as those acts are, imo they still fall short of what Russia, Israel, and China are doing. Again, not a defense of the US, just my opinion on how those 4 nations stack up. And to reiterate, all should be banned from international events like the Olympics.
You know the Ukraine war is a US/NATO proxy war to destabilize Russia, right? You know Israel would not exist in its current state without billions of dollars and years of support from the US govt, right? Every conflict on this planet is because of the US and its desperate, bloodthirsty need to ensure every sovereign nation on the globe is in alignment with “US interests” aka upholding US hegemony and the US military industrial complex. Read “Killing Hope” by William Blum if you’re interested in learning more.
The Palestinian genocide is 100% facilitated by the governments of both the US and Israel, and also by most of the governments of Europe and the Middle East and Australia and Canada. But mainly the US and its proxy in the ME Israel!
Y’all need to learn the definition of genocide because Russia and China are certainly doing nothing of the sort. There’s a difference between war and genocide, in the case of Russia (which by all estimates has lost a hell of a lot more lives than Ukraine), and there’s a difference between cracking down on foreign-armed separatist terrorists and genocide, in the case of China. It could even be argued that Ukraine was committing genocide against ethnic Russians in the Donbas prior to 2022 as there is ample evidence.
Lastly, all of this is not a matter of “your opinion”. It’s a matter of reality and the degree to which we are able and willing to see that reality by finding accurate information outside of the overwhelming propaganda machine of Western mainstream media.
Pffft 8000 civilians killed in Iran together with their entire government doesn’t even count.
That’s within u/Lehmuusa’s acceptable limits. Invading and kidnapping the leader of Venezuela under false pretense is just another day of the month, and blockading and starving a country for oil for no reason is just an example of how might makes right.AFAIK we do not have verification that more than 8000 Uighurs died, so it seems to me that USA deserves to be on that list not less but MORE than China. Also I haven’t heard about China bombing girls schools.
Pffft 8000 civilians killed in Iran together with their entire government doesn’t even count.
Why not?
That’s within u/Lehmuusa’s acceptable limits.
Please read the comment before replying to it. As I said, 8000 civilians killed in Iran together with their entire government is such a bad deed that USA should be excluded from international sports events because of that and other similar behaviour.
we do not have verification that more than 8000 Uighurs died
The big difference between the Chinese War on Terror in Xinjiang and the American War on Terror in North Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia is that
Hu Jintao(he was The Good One, can’t speak ill of Hu) Xi Jinping did it using the Dark Arts of Communism rather than the Liberty-imbued Democracy Bombs of Capitalism.Therefore, every Uighur killed in a police raid on a mosque or who died in a detention camp in Loupu is worse than any ten an American killed with a Shock And Awe bombing run or tortured to death at Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo Bay.
So that 8,000 is closer to 80,000. And when you use the Black Book of Communism math to count the unborn decendents of those dead Muslims (whom we love, because Americans universally condemn all forms of Islamophobia and embrace all religions equally) we’re talking about 800,000. Maybe even 8M. Certainly possible it’s more than that, depending on which libertarian think tank or AI chatbot is running the numbers.
Also I haven’t heard about China bombing girls schools.
China has killed more than 100 Million Muslim Girls. Adrian Zenz told me so.
Just because you agree with the state sponsoring the genocide it doesn’t make the genocide okay.
I wish people sincerely thought this way.
Yeah me too.
Instead I see people explain away China’s genocide because they agree with some of their policies.
Do I detect a trace of sarcasm. 😋
Should be rule that only countries that are not the agressor can participate. So no USA, Russia, Israel, etc.
Why not USA too?
Yup them too
Because they’re not actively genociding any nation?
lol you mean other than the ones we keep bombing and the ones we keep letting our allies bomb?
not counting those, America hasn’t genocided in years. At least three.
Bombing is bad, but is not genocide, unless you deliberately and continuously target selected group of civilians.
What are those three nations or groups the US has genocided in recent history.
the fucking first strike was a girls school
According to all information we have, Israeli intel said it’s a military infrastructure. I believe in that, because there’s no benefit from bombing a school.
We have deliberately killed civilians in every conflict Trump has engaged in.
I asked you to list those 3 groups
We have deliberately killed civilians in every conflict
TrumpAmerica has engaged in.
Neither is China, the Uighur problem is an internal matter. Not a nation. And by that standard we could include Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria for oppressing Kurdish language and identity.
“Internal problem” my ass.
Include them then.
If we expand to concentration camps, we can add at least USA, France (I guess all of Europe contracting with other countries to handle migrants) that I know off. And I think that Canada does not really care about its native people when they go missing, so we could add it to.
That comment kind of seems to distract from the genocides and that kind of minimizes them no?
The US is for sure trying to silently genocide a ton of people. We’re several red flag alerts into the trans genocide, and the US is openly obsessed with white supremacy.
Canada has a very VERY rough history of indigenous treatment, but what’s France’s deal today? I can’t say I know that one
I developped a bit for France, and also EU because we have one european border (more like Schengen which is slightly different than the EU) and frontex is a crime against humanity, with all the mediterranean drowned people.
We’re rounding up non-whites and sending them to concentration camps to die. We have an entire organ of state devoted to ethnic cleansing. USAID cuts alone put our regime among the top fascists by bodycount.
I don’t anyone looks better by being put in the same category as the US.
It was not my intention. I wanted to add that we should stop at the early signs of horror, and add some shitty countries to the list too.
In the case of France, we have frontex as a member of the EU, and they published a nice little book for kids about their expulsion and how it is only a trip back :) or our CRA (Centre de rétention Administratif) which are nothing else that concentration camp, where you are locked up without judgement, doctors can’t come in and you can spend years in worse conditions than our already bad prisons, before being deported back to “your country”. And children gets in CRA too.
I wanted to emphase on these country have issue with human rights, but our white countries too.
The bare minimum should be to have no Olympic Games. It’s ultranationalist propaganda, and a cursory glance at the Wikipedia articles on the first and second World Wars should be sufficient to convince oneself it’s a bad idea to promote the idea that nation states should compete against one another as adversaries.
… And the US? Kinda missing from that list. Same for Israel and Iran as well if we start making a list.
I’ve already included Israel as they are actively genociding the most people at the moment.
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Well, Israel is also still in, which says a lot about the ethical standards of the Olympic Committee
What is attacking civilians and a little genocide among friends?
IOC and FIFA, sitting in a tree…
B-E-I-N-G-P-I-E-C-E-S-O-F-S-H-I-T
First comes greed
Then comes cash
Then comes bribes
Hidden in a stash
Don’t forget the FIA! Probably in the bushes masturbating.
Did the FIA also lift the ban?
In my mind the level of corruption of the FIFA makes the FIA look like saints.
Well, if Israhell is allowed to participate, IOC clearly has no morals and integrity
