If people only went to restaurants that didn’t rely on tips in the US there would be no restaurants whatsoever and all workers would be out of a job.
If people go to the restaurant and don’t tip at some point the waiter can say to their boss that they either get a living wage or they can go to the restaurant thst doesn’t rely on tips (since from your comment they are so common).
From my European POV don’t trick me with fake prices. If the item I’m buying is presented to me with the cost of X then that’s what you should expect and demand of me. Tipping is extra, voluntary and based on above average service.
Shit when I was there last time I got asked for a tip for asking for an item that was off the shelf. It wasn’t even cooked or prepared in any way and it wasn’t even supposed to be consumed in that café. I wasn’t going to pay 20% on an expensive bag of coffee just because some waiter fetched it literally from the shelf behind him. It’s insane
Besides basically everything else runs off tips so it works. Or do you tip your landlord with the rent??
If people only went to restaurants that didn’t rely on tips in the US there would be no restaurants whatsoever and all workers would be out of a job.
But you’re fine exploiting those workers who need that job and not tipping? Honestly fuck you for that. I’d rather be out of a job than work for you for free.
If people go to the restaurant and don’t tip at some point the waiter can say to their boss that they either get a living wage or they can go to the restaurant thst doesn’t rely on tips (since from your comment they are so common).
They can. And then the boss goes to the stack of applications from other people who really don’t want to become homeless so they’ll take whatever job they can get, hires the first one to show up, and within an hour the cycle continues.
From my European POV don’t trick me with fake prices. If the item I’m buying is presented to me with the cost of X then that’s what you should expect and demand of me. Tipping is extra, voluntary and based on above average service.
And why then have I not heard one complaint about sales tax, which is also not included on the menu? Fuck the worker but I’ll pay his boss and the government? And how again is that helping the worker? Honestly if you want to pinch pennies fine but don’t pretend you’re doing anyone but yourself a favor.
Shit when I was there last time I got asked for a tip for asking for an item that was off the shelf. It wasn’t even cooked or prepared in any way and it wasn’t even supposed to be consumed in that café. I wasn’t going to pay 20% on an expensive bag of coffee just because some waiter fetched it literally from the shelf behind him. It’s insane
Fair enough, I wouldn’t have tipped then either, and it can be difficult to understand when it is necessary VS when some dumb tablet at a store asks but it isn’t (that is new since covid tbf).
Basically at any sit down restaurant with servers, or delivery drivers, or bartenders, you need to tip or they’re serving you for free while their exploiter gets paid. As for counter service like you mention, it’s basically only baristas (coffee servers), other counter service workers get paid and you can safely ignore the tablet. I gotta admit that part is probably the hardest part to figure out especially for someone not used to it.
Besides basically everything else runs off tips so it works. Or do you tip your landlord with the rent??
I’ll assume you mean “doesn’t run off tips” but that’s the thing, my landlord isn’t dependant on tips. My servers however are and I know this, so as the system stands today the only people hurt by the lack of tips are those who do indeed rely on them, not their boss, not their bosses landlord, just them. I guess if you want to hurt the poor servers then fine, but impo that’s a dick move. You have to change the system first though before you can stop tipping the workers, again unless you’re fine helping exploit them that is.
If people only went to restaurants that didn’t rely on tips in the US there would be no restaurants whatsoever and all workers would be out of a job.
If people go to the restaurant and don’t tip at some point the waiter can say to their boss that they either get a living wage or they can go to the restaurant thst doesn’t rely on tips (since from your comment they are so common).
From my European POV don’t trick me with fake prices. If the item I’m buying is presented to me with the cost of X then that’s what you should expect and demand of me. Tipping is extra, voluntary and based on above average service.
Shit when I was there last time I got asked for a tip for asking for an item that was off the shelf. It wasn’t even cooked or prepared in any way and it wasn’t even supposed to be consumed in that café. I wasn’t going to pay 20% on an expensive bag of coffee just because some waiter fetched it literally from the shelf behind him. It’s insane
Besides basically everything else runs off tips so it works. Or do you tip your landlord with the rent??
But you’re fine exploiting those workers who need that job and not tipping? Honestly fuck you for that. I’d rather be out of a job than work for you for free.
They can. And then the boss goes to the stack of applications from other people who really don’t want to become homeless so they’ll take whatever job they can get, hires the first one to show up, and within an hour the cycle continues.
And why then have I not heard one complaint about sales tax, which is also not included on the menu? Fuck the worker but I’ll pay his boss and the government? And how again is that helping the worker? Honestly if you want to pinch pennies fine but don’t pretend you’re doing anyone but yourself a favor.
Fair enough, I wouldn’t have tipped then either, and it can be difficult to understand when it is necessary VS when some dumb tablet at a store asks but it isn’t (that is new since covid tbf).
Basically at any sit down restaurant with servers, or delivery drivers, or bartenders, you need to tip or they’re serving you for free while their exploiter gets paid. As for counter service like you mention, it’s basically only baristas (coffee servers), other counter service workers get paid and you can safely ignore the tablet. I gotta admit that part is probably the hardest part to figure out especially for someone not used to it.
I’ll assume you mean “doesn’t run off tips” but that’s the thing, my landlord isn’t dependant on tips. My servers however are and I know this, so as the system stands today the only people hurt by the lack of tips are those who do indeed rely on them, not their boss, not their bosses landlord, just them. I guess if you want to hurt the poor servers then fine, but impo that’s a dick move. You have to change the system first though before you can stop tipping the workers, again unless you’re fine helping exploit them that is.