There you go trying to explain and rationalise the divine words of your infallible god. So why even include the Old Testament? If Jesus “fulfilled” it like an Amazon order, it’s over. Stop using it to judge people. No more Leviticus, Exodus, Deuteronomy, Judges, Proverbs…
Christians hate being reminded that the Old Testament is just Torah fanfiction, so you should be happy to lose that stuff.
Dude. The shroud of Turin was a known fake in the 1300s when it was made. The church decided to adopt it anyway because it was a great money maker with tourists, even though according to your other reply they don’t mix money and faith. I do love that you lead with the most thoroughly debunked religious fraud in Christian history as your strongest evidence though. That genuinely gave me a laugh.
Witnesses are notoriously unreliable and easily swayed. And you never said witnesses of what. Just vague “miracles” of the trust-me-bro variety? Which Roman officials? Were the letters corroborated by contemporary evidence and writings from reliable scholars?
Magic does not exist. Ghosts and the Easter Bunny are fake too, sorry to ruin that for you.
There exist no videos nor photos of Cleopatra, nor Julias Caesar
And proof for tbe Shroud of Turin being fake
To establish the existence of a person without any assumptions, one source from one author (either a supporter or opponent) is needed; for Jesus there are at least 12 independent sources from five authors from supporters and two independent sources from two authors from non-supporters, within a century of the crucifixion.[11] Since historical sources on other named individuals from first century Galilee were written by either supporters or enemies, these sources on Jesus cannot be dismissed, and the existence of at least 14 sources from at least seven authors means there is much more evidence available for Jesus than for any other notable person from 1st century Galilee.[11] Some scholars estimate that there are about 30 independent sources written by 25 authors who attest to Jesus overall.[12] It is notable that some independent sources did not survive, but are broadly referenced directly in the surviving sources themselves (e.g. Luke) or inferred from modern source analysis.[13]
Bonus 6. I’m tired of you.
Is that not the church’s whole thing? You’d think they would be better at it.
Matt 5:17
Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to loosen the law or the prophets. I have not come to loosen, but to fulfill.
He has not come to loosen the laws but to fulfill them
This statement is told because the Pharisees were claiming that he was teaching people to ignore the law of Moses
By fulfill, he means completely live a sinless life that no Israelite had managed, becoming the first and last to do so.
This is also why the sacrificial system was abolished too, because Jesus’ sacrifice was enough to the Lord for eternity.
There you go trying to explain and rationalise the divine words of your infallible god. So why even include the Old Testament? If Jesus “fulfilled” it like an Amazon order, it’s over. Stop using it to judge people. No more Leviticus, Exodus, Deuteronomy, Judges, Proverbs…
Christians hate being reminded that the Old Testament is just Torah fanfiction, so you should be happy to lose that stuff.
You haven’t provided proof, only claims. It doesn’t make me uncomfortable, juat disappointed that some people are so credulous.
Shroud of Turin 500+ Witness accounts letters from ROMAN OFFICIALS to Caesar
Dude. The shroud of Turin was a known fake in the 1300s when it was made. The church decided to adopt it anyway because it was a great money maker with tourists, even though according to your other reply they don’t mix money and faith. I do love that you lead with the most thoroughly debunked religious fraud in Christian history as your strongest evidence though. That genuinely gave me a laugh.
Witnesses are notoriously unreliable and easily swayed. And you never said witnesses of what. Just vague “miracles” of the trust-me-bro variety? Which Roman officials? Were the letters corroborated by contemporary evidence and writings from reliable scholars?
Magic does not exist. Ghosts and the Easter Bunny are fake too, sorry to ruin that for you.
we didnt have High Res Photography in the 0s
There exist no videos nor photos of Cleopatra, nor Julias Caesar
And proof for tbe Shroud of Turin being fake
To establish the existence of a person without any assumptions, one source from one author (either a supporter or opponent) is needed; for Jesus there are at least 12 independent sources from five authors from supporters and two independent sources from two authors from non-supporters, within a century of the crucifixion.[11] Since historical sources on other named individuals from first century Galilee were written by either supporters or enemies, these sources on Jesus cannot be dismissed, and the existence of at least 14 sources from at least seven authors means there is much more evidence available for Jesus than for any other notable person from 1st century Galilee.[11] Some scholars estimate that there are about 30 independent sources written by 25 authors who attest to Jesus overall.[12] It is notable that some independent sources did not survive, but are broadly referenced directly in the surviving sources themselves (e.g. Luke) or inferred from modern source analysis.[13]
I could but I don’t care enough.