• Jackie's Fridge@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Dude. The shroud of Turin was a known fake in the 1300s when it was made. The church decided to adopt it anyway because it was a great money maker with tourists, even though according to your other reply they don’t mix money and faith. I do love that you lead with the most thoroughly debunked religious fraud in Christian history as your strongest evidence though. That genuinely gave me a laugh.

    Witnesses are notoriously unreliable and easily swayed. And you never said witnesses of what. Just vague “miracles” of the trust-me-bro variety? Which Roman officials? Were the letters corroborated by contemporary evidence and writings from reliable scholars?

    Magic does not exist. Ghosts and the Easter Bunny are fake too, sorry to ruin that for you.

    • IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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      12 hours ago

      we didnt have High Res Photography in the 0s

      There exist no videos nor photos of Cleopatra, nor Julias Caesar

      And proof for tbe Shroud of Turin being fake

      To establish the existence of a person without any assumptions, one source from one author (either a supporter or opponent) is needed; for Jesus there are at least 12 independent sources from five authors from supporters and two independent sources from two authors from non-supporters, within a century of the crucifixion.[11] Since historical sources on other named individuals from first century Galilee were written by either supporters or enemies, these sources on Jesus cannot be dismissed, and the existence of at least 14 sources from at least seven authors means there is much more evidence available for Jesus than for any other notable person from 1st century Galilee.[11] Some scholars estimate that there are about 30 independent sources written by 25 authors who attest to Jesus overall.[12] It is notable that some independent sources did not survive, but are broadly referenced directly in the surviving sources themselves (e.g. Luke) or inferred from modern source analysis.[13]

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