There’s a lot going wrong in that country, sadly. But their stance lately on the US and Israel is admirable and should be an example for the rest of the EU, and the world. Silence is compliance.
Spain’s location is very important strategically, and not being able to us Naval Station Rota, and Morón airbase complicates things for the US.
Disabling, no, but it certainly makes things harder.
But if their PM says they’ve given 4 billion I suppose it must be true. He is the leader of a country after all. They would never lie or skew the truth in their favour.
Spain with their corruption are obviously highly trustworthy.
Possibly. I am in the process of decreasing my carb intake by 99%
Great that they closed their airspace. Truly. But praising them for “going hard” I think is silly. And I stand by that their reason for doing so is purely for domestic politics. It’s the right decision but for the wrong reason.
I don’t see why this matters to you at all. If someone feeds the homeless nefariously, then let them. The homeless are getting fed. If someone stops the holocaust because it allows them to cement their hegemony, or because they got paid for it, whatever! If it stops the holocaust, I’m happy.
And people do feed homeless people nefariously, it’s a real problem for real people. Mixing in moulded food. Filling sandwiches with toothpaste.
You misunderstand the premise. Spain isn’t mixing toothpaste in proverbial sandwiches here. They closed their air space for air traffic intended for the illegal assault on Iran. That’s a good thing. It’s a tuna melt sandwich, no tooth paste, in the hands of the homeless.
Why would it be relative? I’m sure Denmark could close their airspace to the US too, but it’s not relevant so does it matter?
Other countries are busy spending enormous sums of money and resources on helping Ukraine. Opening up a second front in a second war has never been a successful strategy.
Mate, Spain isn’t doing great itself. As much as I would love to have Spain’s support, they need ours first. There is a lot of corruption, poverty, inequality, oppression of minority groups, etc. The fact they speak out against a tyrant does more on the world stage than staying politically correct and trying to keep the modern fascist regime a friend because that would be the economically smart choice.
We need people to speak up, to take a side, because silance is compliance. In history we remember the ones who did. Like Martin Luther King and Ghandi, to just name a few. Their words meant more than their money. We also remember the UK and France for taking a stance against Hitler too late, after letting him go too far already.
Even the pope is doing it. It has always been the strongest power of the Vatican, even though their wealth could end world hunger more than once.
What Spain is risking by closing it’s airspace to the US, is war with the US if the US doesn’t give a shit and uses its airspace, and Spain keeps its word. I wouldn’t say that’s just bark and no bite. That shit is serious. It’s only just bark if they don’t enforce it, but we don’t know that yet. At least they take a strong stance, which should be an example to us all. They risk war with a super power to take a moral stance. They are modern day heroes if you ask me. Rosa Park did the same, taking huge risks to take a stance.
They are not doing great themselves, yes, there’s plenty of corruption to go around, is any of that an excuse? Their problems didn’t happen yesterday. They’ve had plenty of time to work for a better future. All while being funded by the EU. They’re just not interested…
I’m not complaining about Spain closing their airspace. That’s great.
But giving Spain credit for “going hard” is just wrong. For decades they’ve gone by doing the bare minimum, if even that, reaping every possible benefit of EU while contributing nothing of worth or significance.
Spain is not risking war with the US. Not even close.
So you’re complaining they aren’t doing enough. At, least they are doing something. Can’t say the same about Hungary. All EU countries are not doing enough. One does more than the other, that’s how things are. At least Spain is speaking out, taking a stance. Can’t say the same for most other countries.
So we can continue complaining about everything that could be done better, but that doesn’t help anyone. Maybe focus your anger at the real issue we live with: the US and Russia. Instead of bickering about who does more, which will only create more turmoil instead of creating a stronger front together. The US and Russia would love nothing more than to divide the EU and your comments fit their narrative.
Spain’s been going fairly hard lately, and I’m loving it!
There’s a lot going wrong in that country, sadly. But their stance lately on the US and Israel is admirable and should be an example for the rest of the EU, and the world. Silence is compliance.
Oh, so hard! Closed airspace to US planes. Wow! It must be very scary.
Spain’s location is very important strategically, and not being able to us Naval Station Rota, and Morón airbase complicates things for the US. Disabling, no, but it certainly makes things harder.
It’s all bark and no bite. If they want to go hard, how about they actually do something instead of sending thoughts and prayers.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1499394/european-aid-to-ukraine-by-country/
Sorry, how does not supporting the war in Ukraine make Spain’s opposition to US and Israeli wars hypocritical? This makes no sense.
Bullshit:
“I would like to present new measures from Spain — first and foremost, a new military aid package worth EUR 1 billion for 2026. In total, Spain’s assistance in this war has reached EUR 4 billion,” Sanchez said.
Awesome. Better late than never.
But if their PM says they’ve given 4 billion I suppose it must be true. He is the leader of a country after all. They would never lie or skew the truth in their favour.
Spain with their corruption are obviously highly trustworthy.
This is more than thoughts
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy368j1e3lo
Oh wow… closed airspace for US military planes. Must be real expensive. What a huge sacrifice.
They’re not risking anything. It doesn’t cost them anything. The only reason they close it is for their own domestic politics.
You don’t think their own people should be their priority?
You probably don’t mean to, but you’re sounding like a bit of an ignorant asshole. Were you like hangry or sth when you wrote this?
Possibly. I am in the process of decreasing my carb intake by 99%
Great that they closed their airspace. Truly. But praising them for “going hard” I think is silly. And I stand by that their reason for doing so is purely for domestic politics. It’s the right decision but for the wrong reason.
I don’t see why this matters to you at all. If someone feeds the homeless nefariously, then let them. The homeless are getting fed. If someone stops the holocaust because it allows them to cement their hegemony, or because they got paid for it, whatever! If it stops the holocaust, I’m happy.
Except it doesn’t stop the genocide at all.
And the problem with doing the right thing for the wrong reason is that next time it’s not going to be the right thing.
And people do feed homeless people nefariously, it’s a real problem for real people. Mixing in moulded food. Filling sandwiches with toothpaste.
I’m sure you want them to say thank you and eat around the toothpaste… but I’m not going to praise them for it.
You misunderstand the premise. Spain isn’t mixing toothpaste in proverbial sandwiches here. They closed their air space for air traffic intended for the illegal assault on Iran. That’s a good thing. It’s a tuna melt sandwich, no tooth paste, in the hands of the homeless.
Let’s make it relative. Which countries are going harder against the US (without supporting Iran).
Why would it be relative? I’m sure Denmark could close their airspace to the US too, but it’s not relevant so does it matter?
Other countries are busy spending enormous sums of money and resources on helping Ukraine. Opening up a second front in a second war has never been a successful strategy.
Spain’s hardness isn’t going enough for you. I’m highlighting that there are not many countries “going harder” than Spain (with respect to Iran).
Naval Station Rota, and Morón Airbase are pretty fucking big, strategic, and not being able to use them is not trivial.
You were going to complain no matter what Spain did…
No, they could start actually helping out in europe and I’ll be overjoyed.
You could be fighting in Ukraine, since you seem to think that’s a good idea. There’s plenty of conscripts happy to switch places with you.
I’ll even cover your railway ticket from Poland.
Mate, Spain isn’t doing great itself. As much as I would love to have Spain’s support, they need ours first. There is a lot of corruption, poverty, inequality, oppression of minority groups, etc. The fact they speak out against a tyrant does more on the world stage than staying politically correct and trying to keep the modern fascist regime a friend because that would be the economically smart choice.
We need people to speak up, to take a side, because silance is compliance. In history we remember the ones who did. Like Martin Luther King and Ghandi, to just name a few. Their words meant more than their money. We also remember the UK and France for taking a stance against Hitler too late, after letting him go too far already.
Even the pope is doing it. It has always been the strongest power of the Vatican, even though their wealth could end world hunger more than once.
What Spain is risking by closing it’s airspace to the US, is war with the US if the US doesn’t give a shit and uses its airspace, and Spain keeps its word. I wouldn’t say that’s just bark and no bite. That shit is serious. It’s only just bark if they don’t enforce it, but we don’t know that yet. At least they take a strong stance, which should be an example to us all. They risk war with a super power to take a moral stance. They are modern day heroes if you ask me. Rosa Park did the same, taking huge risks to take a stance.
They are not doing great themselves, yes, there’s plenty of corruption to go around, is any of that an excuse? Their problems didn’t happen yesterday. They’ve had plenty of time to work for a better future. All while being funded by the EU. They’re just not interested…
I’m not complaining about Spain closing their airspace. That’s great.
But giving Spain credit for “going hard” is just wrong. For decades they’ve gone by doing the bare minimum, if even that, reaping every possible benefit of EU while contributing nothing of worth or significance.
Spain is not risking war with the US. Not even close.
Are you going to bring up the Spanish inquisition too?
So you’re complaining they aren’t doing enough. At, least they are doing something. Can’t say the same about Hungary. All EU countries are not doing enough. One does more than the other, that’s how things are. At least Spain is speaking out, taking a stance. Can’t say the same for most other countries.
So we can continue complaining about everything that could be done better, but that doesn’t help anyone. Maybe focus your anger at the real issue we live with: the US and Russia. Instead of bickering about who does more, which will only create more turmoil instead of creating a stronger front together. The US and Russia would love nothing more than to divide the EU and your comments fit their narrative.
You were deffo complaining about that only just a few comments up.
Clueless. Do your homework.
you dropped this.
It’s yours, don’t lie
don’t kink shame, it’s rude.
We can laugh at what we accept makes others happy too you know. I don’t need to approve of peoples kinks for them to be allowed to exist.
doesn’t make it less rude though…
Are you assuming there’s decorum on the internet?
it costs nothing to be kind while you peg a man.