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    first of all: absolute banger of an intro! definitively gonna watch it (and probably some more) later

    second: you should know that nowadayd social media is neither “social” nor simply algorithm driven, but simply bought. if not directly by creators on platforms, than through third parties that generate many clicks fast so the algos pick it up.

    exponential growth needs you to go steady with good quality for years to make up for the handicap you have compared to huge studios or rich people

    thanks for sharing!

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    FYI: you can turn off the history recording in your Youtube settings. No “Algorithm” anymore

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    Yup.

    It’s a labor of love. I’ve been told I need to start cutting up my videos into shorts, and I may do that at some point, but right now I can’t be bothered. My stuff isn’t really intended for gen z’ers with no attention span anyway.

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      Based. Bring back bare minimum requirements and expectations of people interacting with media, art, data, and programs.

      I really hate that this ends up becoming a de facto gatekeeping tactic, but at some point, our creations and works cannot always be formatted for the lowest denominator. Art, media, interactive forms of data are meant to be a dialogue of sorts, an indirect conversation, and people can reasonably be expected to bring a certain level of attention and passion to that. At least I think so.

      I apologize if this makes me sound like a douche. I really don’t want it to, and at the same time, how else can we expect to grow and have real discussions and projects if we keep our content and conversations at a base level.

      I’d love to hear people’s thoughts, if y’all have any you’d like to share.

    • I got told shorts is the way a hundred times. Then I actually started doing high production quality shorts. Even though I really love making them, they don’t get much traction either. lol … you are totally right it is a labor of love

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        Yeah, I know there are a few things I can do to help my videos gain traction: Make a custom thumbnail, add hashtags, use chapters… and I do that, but apart from that, I think consistency, authenticity, and patience are the most important qualities in being a content creator.

        My best-performing video is a small tutorial for “teaching” YouTube’s algorithm to stop feeding you AI Slop, after all. I think people really want authenticity.

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    Is this about a video you (op) made? If so please link it here and I’ll give it a watch. I love long form content and have plenty of time for videos in the background while tending to a newborn

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      No please. Do not reward this kind of posting. People are just going to flood the fediverse with this kind of engagement farming. If they want to get eyes on their content they are welcome to post it in the relevant communities, ideally with a disclaimer that they made it.

      Reddit was filled with posts like: “no one cares about my neurodivergent differently abled nieces art project 🥺👉👈”

      Let’s not encourage that here.

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      I must admit, I also enjoy long form content, however… I’m suspicious of the handle being, toasterbotnet, and a watch toaster url watermark……

      • I’m totally not a virus. I’m just a toaster. trust me bro.

        no but seriously. my website does not do shady things. ToasterBotnet is just a funny name. I’m not out there hacking toasters or something. Just making videos and shitposting memes.

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        really like this one! since this seems like an important message many of my friends could make good use of i’ll be spreading.

        not so sure about the content in your singularity video, though. you certainly elaborate on some important ideas, but you lose me by your misuse of the word “internet”. the internet was already there in 1995. all the relevant (or at least the most important) protocols existed (except from the cryptography part) and the sheer idea of stopping the internet before it was too late seems to miss how revolutionary, decentralized and thus uncontrollable this idea was.

        you simply can not stop people from connecting their computers and exchanging data. best you can do is erecting firewalls in between populations.

        still: thanks for creating and making your content accessible!

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          Thanks appreciate the feedback.

          Yeah you are right about the singularity video. Could have be a bit more clear about the difference between the web and the internet. And yes I don’t think they would have been able to stop it either. But they certainly would have tried :D

          thanks for the kind words :)

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    I feel that. I spent 80+ hours making a lore video a few years back which never got any views. Saw someone else literally just read off the games wiki on a video and they got some numbers.

    At the end of the day you gotta decide if you wanna chase the algorithm or just do it for the love of the game

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      You gotta do a little marketing for it honestly. I found out about the YouTuber MeatCanyon in 2019 when I saw a post about a funny Star Wars video he made on Reddit. I subscribed to him when he had less than a 1,000 subs and now he’s very successful.

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      Very much this. In the last few years, a lot of the youtubers I follow have moved from 20 minute-ish videos to 50 minute-ish videos, and I don’t like it; most of the time the video could be a lot shorter. The worst perpetrators will have 1 hour videos where half of the content is rehashed from older videos, and after each new video follows a week of daily shorts from said video.

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        Yeah, the middle length 10-20m looks like it’s dead. People are moving into podcast or 40m rant videos which are a lot better per hour. I’m going to give a shoutout to Tom Nicholas and NileRed which make excellent +1h content.

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    I remember there being a bunch of people saying this in the YouTubers subreddit.

    What they never quite grasped was this : the algorithm tries to put videos in front of people it thinks they will want to watch, with the goal of getting people to watch as much YouTube as possible, with one of the metrics used to make this judgment being whether the people who have been recommend the video have watched it, and if so, for how long.

    If “the algorithm” doesn’t like your video, it’s because the people it has been recommended to have either not watched it, or have watched a very short amount before clicking away.

    In other words, your video was shit.

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      You get downvoted because people doesn’t understand that Youtube is not a video entertainment platform, it is an ad provider platform as it is providing ads to people. Your video is shit not because it isn’t a high quality video, it is shit because it doesn’t fulfill it’s only purpose, serving ads to people. It is shit in the eyes of ad companies.

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        That makes no goddamn sense.

        The more time you spend on the platform, the more ads Google can show you. A video that people watch is good for showing people more ads. If people don’t watch a video, it’s not useful for showing ads.

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      “The algorithm” prioritizes short form content over longer ones due to their ability to serve ads. And studies by these companies have repeatedly shown that despite what people say, most people prefer shorter content over longer ones.

      People would rather watch an okay 30-second tiktok than a good 4 minute video.

      Which is nuts to me because I can’t stand them. I love watching documentaries and long form videos. And that’s why I don’t use YouTube anymore.

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      That’s not quite how I would phrase it. It’s not that the video was necessarily shit, but your audience was bored by it, and it doesn’t take a rocket-scientist-algorithm to figure out if people are bored by your video or not.

      YouTube is still mostly a platform for entertainment, even when a video is supposed to educational. “Good” videos won’t get algorithm’d if people are bored by the video and/or your thumbnail + title don’t draw people in. Make an entertaining video that draws people in and it won’t matter how long your video is (granted, a 4 hour long entertaining video is a lot harder to make than a 2 minute video.)

      Source: videos I’ve made that have and haven’t been algorithm’d.

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          Good is subjective, and I personally don’t think entertaining always has to equal good.

          I get where you’re coming from. There’s a lot of bitching about the algorithm and it’s tempting to just say, “Maybe your videos just suck, man”, but it’s not always true, and, as a a bonus, not very constructive feedback.

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            I disagree about constructive feedback, if someone has decided “the algorithm” is the reason their video isn’t getting views, they’re not going to do anything to actually improve their content.

            By pointing out it’s people who are choosing not to watch their content, they might decide to actually do something different.

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              I agree that you need to point out that the algorithm isn’t to blame, but saying, “Your videos aren’t getting algorithm’d because your videos suck” isn’t constructive and is far more likely to piss people off. If you don’t care about pissing people off then 🤷