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A British woman was shot dead by her father last year after the pair had argued about President Donald Trump earlier that day. Lucy Harrison, 23, was fatally shot on Jan. 10, 2025 while visiting her father, Kris Harrison, in suburban Dallas at his home in Prosper, Texas. Harrison moved to the U.S. when Lucy was a child.

Prosper police originally investigated her death as a possible case of manslaughter, but a criminal case in Texas was not brought after a grand jury in Collin County opted not to indict him. Her death is being investigated in Cheshire Coroner’s Court in England.

  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    They don’t see themselves as a cult.

    people in cults never do.

    You calling them a cult just allows them to ignore everything else you have to say.

    people in cults usually do.

    You have to meet them with their own doublespeak if you want to break the cultish brainwashing, and force them to question themselves.

    no I don’t. breaking programming requires one of two things. force or logic. logic won’t work with this cult, and force is unscalable without collaterall damage.

    Antagonistic conversion will only entrench their beliefs.

    correct, which is why you shouldn’t ever try to “double speak” them.

    The way you have to deradicalize them is to earnestly question things until they can no longer deny the hypocrisy and doublethink/ doublespeak.

    as I said, logic won’t work with this cult.

    I’m not even going to finish reading your comment because you clearly have a lack of experience or understanding of how programming and cults work. this is especially true since many of the members of this cult have had their programming fortified over the last 20 years. put simply, they are entrenched and the only thing that may work is a shock to their system. even that though, is unlikely to work.

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      11 hours ago

      How many have you successfully reached? I’ve been deprogramming them for decades. I know of at least 6 people that I successfully deradicalized this way in the last 2 decades, and as many as 18 over the last 4.

      For one person that isn’t exactly nothing. These people all exist in The Bible Belt, aka Trump Country, and I have lived in California for the last decade.

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        9 hours ago

        Your technique is irrelevant. That you had the compassion to stick with it is what matters.

        I’m not trying to be an ass. Really. But to think that you have a universal technique to deprogram anyone is dangerously naive.

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          9 hours ago

          Nah, you’re probably correct on your assessment about having the stubbornness needed. I was just mainly arguing that logic won’t work with people that didn’t logic themselves into their beliefs on the first place.

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          10 hours ago

          As I thought. Your methods have resulted in 0 positive results.

          My methods have resulted in the better part of 2 dozen positive results. Not a great percentage, but better than 0. Emotions work much better than logic with these people, despite my objections to that.

          The definition of insanity is trying the same failed methods over and over expecting different results.