Those are all good points, but I feel still 90% to go haha

Can we bring back the down vote button lol

Dude… If ONLY we had that kind of accountability in the US!!

Edit: now I have an idea crazy enough it might just work. We get a pact of users together who all vow to run for respective offices and have an agreement (legally binding or not) to be true to our fellow citizens. We shuffle around enough of the cabinet/seats and leaders, we can catch them off-guard and hit them where it hurts!

Vimeo?

No doubt!

Well, yeah maybe in theory the US supposedly has privacy.

The NSA over 20 years ago began to surveil all citizens post 9/11

https://www.aclu.org/issues/national-security/privacy-and-surveillance/nsa-surveillance

Police, specifically federal ICE agents, use Stingrays aka IMSI simulators to hijack cell signals to spy on users nearby and track them down.

https://sls.eff.org/technologies/cell-site-simulators-imsi-catchers

Maybe the US is worse for misleading its citizens into thinking they’re safe and have privacy, but it is far from the truth. Is not about whether or not you have anything to hide, it’s about having peace of mind of actual security in data. Or hell just your day to day.

It’s like a cheater in a relationship. They accuse you of all these nasty things because they do it themselves and think if they do it so must everyone else be doing it too. Every accusation is an admission of guilt…

If the US has a right to privacy, it’s basically nonexistent.

Almost every piece of technology is tracked through identifiers, tracking cookies, location services, cellular data transmission, nearby devices/services, facial recognition or license plate recognition, and more.

Data brokers buy, sell, and trade data in the PBs, and a lot of AI is useful on is training on our data to adjust wages, pricing of goods and services, or premiums like insurance rates, etc. Pair that with the media, they feed you only enough to be a distraction or just enough to mislead. They track how much you watch and what times so they can keep you in an echo chamber or keep you supressed if you go against the grain.

They know all about you, height, weight, age, sex, who you hang out with, where you’ve lived, your income, your spending habits, driving patterns and habits, where you’ve visited and how often, where you get groceries, where you shop online. They figure out what ads to display for you, what times it works best, what might be controversial enough to get you to click a link. They use algorithms to share upsetting or conflicting into to get people sucked into the content they want you to consume.

There is so much subliminal and subconscious control, it’s hardly noticeable. It probably sounds super “tinfoil hat”, but when you have enough information on how its gathered and executed, you realize with how much you know and have learned, there probably so much more you don’t know or haven’t learned.

Then you for your insight!

I don’t necessarily think China is as bad as we make it out to be. What major country doesn’t have their gov spying on them?! I would almost argue that the US has more surveillance tech on its citizens than any other developed country. Based on how much tech we know exists and can assume exists that we don’t know about, plus, with how much the US involves itself in other countries business, it’d be no surprise how much they know about everyone else domestically.

They might be concerned, but they’re more worried about fitting in with the masses than actual privacy.

We need to be done with protests and move on to national strikes! Disrupt their supply of cash, tank stocks, fuck the market!!

How’d they do it? Contract ended or petition?

Amen. We all drive cars older than 2015, and I’ve gone against anything newer.

The other issue is all those Flock cameras all over our state and surrounding areas, is almost impossible to not be tracked. I didn’t consent to those being used by or municipal or city.

I’m sick of being data points on a spreadsheet!!

Honestly, go after any bit of the economy. A “bad economy” is only bad for the wealthy who profit off the system. Wipe out their wealth and they’ll be brought to their knees 🥹

Honestly, as an American, I’d love for Canada to really team up with China and both start to ban use of American products and imports.

Fuck this broken ass system that essentially makes it impossible to work together. Even if we could work together, there’s too much distance/separation to really unite enough. Combine that with all the ability to spread misinformation and don’t and people will just prefer to be sheep and go about their business.

They know this because the elitists keep pushing the boundaries and learn how docile we truly are. Half the country has the ability to unite in force and the other thinks all guns are bad and think quiet protests would get us anywhere. We’re past the occasional protest.

For the sake of not getting a ban, (like reddit would happily have done) This isn’t a call to action or violence. Just pointing out.

Well crap my username announces my age, lol.

There, fixed it for you, lol

Thank you, that was a long-but good-read!

I agree on the hoard -bash or bandwagoning where, already, too often on lemmy someone shits on proton because they saw others who pointed out “why it’s bad”, and then they feel the need to also say it’s bad without informed decision making or further explaining (because they can’t).

Like you, and hopefully others, I read through this privacy policy enough to where I felt I could trust the company and it’s services. Unless there is hard evidence to the contrary, I won’t be abandoning the platform.

For anyone else who’ll comment on this, you’re entitled to your opinions, but I won’t be listening to any arguments as to why I’m wrong for liking or supporting Proton.

I guess I don’t care enough or pay enough attention to what CEOs say, nor know the context in which it was said… (Maybe brown nosing to play nice, idk) but I switched to Proton away from Google and Microsoft because it seemed like a good, complete, little ecosystem of apps. The company themselves based out of Switzerland has some of the best privacy laws to back their claims of remaining privacy-first and not sharing or selling user data.

Does it cost? Sure, probably a lot of that has to do with hosting the infrastructure, but I’m willing to pay for, and recommend to regular friends and family who aren’t as paranoid about using “no name” FOSS apps people haven’t heard of. I get the incentive of foss, but others won’t care to understand its benefits no matter how much you tell them, so Proton is a great “big” name company they can trust.

I second Mint.

I used some EoL laptops around our warehouse with Mint installed so people could search stuff they needed, that was mostly web-based, and nobody really complained about anything not working. A few figured it out pretty well, a few said “it looks different” without really understanding what they’re using.

First off, lol, min wage isn’t a Republican problem alone. We’ve had 12 of the last 17 years (since 2008s last set of 7.25) be democratic led, so really, they don’t care just as much as Republicans…

Bro, we’ve already “lost” the healthcare war. Nobody gives a shit, or it’d change. If the politicians weren’t bought by pharma, they’d likely change policies for the better. Get it? Right now laws make it possible to fuck us because they’re in big money’s pockets.

Also, school shootings are a parenting problem. They’re not being locked up, which is how a lot of kids get them in the first place. Policymakers can easily do more to assist in reducing the root cause. But it takes time to tackle. Banning guns flat out isn’t the answer and never has been. Sorry.

But nice try turning it to seem so negative. Like I just want the country to suck more?? Honestly, pretty much anyone else could make improvements/do a better job.