I feel obligated to say that in no way do I condone the actions of Jeffery Epstein and others like him.

#ReleaseTheEpsteinFiles #ActuallyDrainTheSwamp

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    3 hours ago

    Do you want them to get a national security letter that they can’t acknowledge was sent to them demanding a backdoor be installed so they can access their customers encrypted emails? Or a court order to hand over their encryption keys unlocking them all like a previous one did?

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    The only real selling point of any of these is “Not gmail.”

    Like. Sure. If you email your friend from your $redacted e2ee military-grade encryption account, and your friend also has the same provider of their e2ee military-grade encrypted email account, then yes. They’re encrypted, and $redacted can’t really provide much if they get subpoenaed. If your friend is using gmail? Your emails are being read by gmail.

    They often have other features, like I have a catch-all mailbox set up for my domain because I’d rather give lemmy$date@example.com than my actual email for various reasons. But their privacy ends where gmail begins.

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      Ya, the main reason I use alias’ at this point is because when an account gets compromised I can just change the email and password. Helps that I can also just disable emails that are only getting mailing lists too.

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        Yep! The other side benefits are that if your info gets sold online/leaked/what have you, and you start getting emails from your “bank” at the email you used to sign up for a random browser game in 2018, it’s easier to tell that it’s a scam. Not even that expensive either, I think I pay a total of $56/yr for the domain and the email?

        Only issue is I usually put the month/year in the alias so if something does happen I don’t need to remember if this is the first or third email for a service. If I don’t mark down the email in my password manager (rare, but has happened), I have the fun issue of forgetting my email and password for the account, because idfk when I signed up for this

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      Given the literal millions of documents, photos and videos and only two arrests, facing consequences seems such an extreme outlier that any effort to hide it probably felt like a waste of time.

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    Its actually a bit crazy that this person, highly connected, clearly associated with intelligence assets globally, perhaps one themselves (not working for mossad 😉 remember that!), didn’t require better opsec of themselves, their associates (at least Maxwell). I don’t recall if they set up their own e-mail server or if they used a service, but e2ee encryption with full disk encryption, and then refusing to cooperate… As far as I know they had nothing but basic password protection. In that case, if you physicaly control the laptops, its almost inevitable that someone is going to be able to view the contents.

    Any one know if e2ee and full disk encryption would be sufficient? I’m not talking about crazy hypothetical edge cases. Basic e2ee and full disk encryption to me is just standard for… well practically everything. I would consider that basic hygiene for being on the modern internet, along with a proper VPN like mulvad.

    Another aside and something to recognize, the accused here don’t think of themselves as engaging in wrongdoing. Its a cult of power and privileged, the point of which is that the rules don’t apply. Even after 2008, these people continued to engage with Epstein. A big part of this is psychological.

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        Just because someone collects data doesn’t mean that they’re using it for a particular purpose. I’ve worked at orgs that archived gobs of data - not necessarily user data - “in case we find a use for it.” Possession of data does not guarantee possession of a particular insight.

        I’m not saying that no one at Google knew. Just that it’s far from impossible.

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      As advanced as Israel is regarding their internet knowledge, I’m surprised at how bad some of their online stuff is, and I can’t figure out if it’s by design. bash dot org was IDF, and it’s terribly simplistic. thisishamas dot com was also run by the IDF, and it’ll make your heard hurt how badly it was designed.

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        Yes, but then everybody you wish to talk to also needs a PGP key, and GPG, the most common PGP impldmentation isn’t actually that secure. It still supports dedeated encryption algorithms and some nasty exploits.

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          Yeah, those are bigger issues. It’s still easier to find people who’re using PGP than your specific email provider, though. Your friend using gmail can use pgp via a client.

          I’ve heard of the exploits, but the ones I’ve heard of do typically require the hackers/whatever to have the emails (either via intercepting them as they’re traveling, or getting them from the server), then injecting some HTML, then emailing the emails back to you to trick the server/client to sending the unencrypted emails back? While I don’t use email for much, and my threat model involves much more “Google” than “The government”, I’m not sure how much of a concern this would be for people who’s threat model isn’t that high?

          (Admittedly this is also the first I’m hearing of the exploits. I don’t tend to use PGP for my emails, since I don’t send that many emails anyway)

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      Epstein got, well, Epstein’d. Jean-Luc Brune got Epstein’d. John Casablanca, dead. Ghislaine Maxwell, prison. Prince Andrew lost all titles in UK monarchy. Bill Gates got divorced over his ties to Epstein, got an STD apparently as well. Harvey Weinstein career is in the shitter, as is Woody Allen’s, and Brett Ratner made the Melania movie.

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    That would be stupidest PR & Marketing stunt of all time!

    By the way, I am about to create a thread about Capitalism & Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes/Owners can do & get away with, that relates to what you are saying in this thread starting post. The people really are not exposed, redactions & being forced to release the more small amount of the files. Would not be surprised if the redacted cannot be un-redacted, redacted right after creation & on the originals, with both parties & huge money donors have members that have been redacted from the files & never have a majority of the files released.