Kudos for pointing out the complexity of the situation. Also, many cases of physical abuse are both partners. Presumably on is responding to the other.

I am suspicious of the idea that men are less likely to seek custody. Is that for “sole custody” or 50% custody?

Speaking for myself, I fought hard for 50%, as I didn’t want to deprive my son of his mother, but there are points I considered seeking full custody and did not pursue because I knew how infrequently men get any custody.

I bet other men do the same.

Sure, do a search on YouTube. You will see the video and plenty of late night commentary on it. Nevada, 2016.

Are you kidding? Men are least likely to get custody. Abuse is 50/50. Here are the receipts. Took me 10 seconds with duckduckgo.

Please don’t spread misinformation. Check your assumptions before stating them as fact.

Domestic Abuse Statistics

Research shows that one in three women is a victim of physical, emotional or verbal abuse from a dating partner. Although intimate partner violence impacts women of all ages, women ages 18 to 34 generally experience the highest rates. Men can also be victims of domestic violence. In fact, 48.8% of men have experienced psychological aggression, compared to 48.4% of women.

12 child custody statistics

Approximately 15,086,000 children under the age of 18 in the United States live exclusively with their mothers.

Approximately 3,054,000 children under the age of 18 in the United States live exclusively with their fathers.

I was quoting Trump, but I agree.

Well perhaps you are correct, perhaps not. I think statistics might not match. I can speak for my own experiences.

First wife stole 100k, second accused me of abuse to seek full custody of our son and also break the prenup protecting a small amount of money I inherited before we met.

Both were abusive, but courts don’t care if women abuse.

In both cases, the courts didn’t really care that she lied or literally committed a crime. In fact, they compelled me to pay for her lawyer, apparently common practice.

Then there are a few women I knew who were very vocal about the evils of men in general and superiority of women. One was even a friend for a long time, surprisingly.

I agree that anecdotal evidence is not proof on a larger scale. Still, other men’s described experiences match my own. Abuse statistics also contradict the public narrative.

I’m a lifelong progressive/liberal, so don’t assume anything about my personality from this politically incorrect comment.

There is a large number of women who actively dislike or disrespect men as a general rule.

There is a certain segment of feminism that isn’t about equal rights and equal consideration, but instead feel superior and expect to be treated as such. Men are means to ends.

These women are never wrong, and are allergic to personal responsibility. Guaranteed some man was the reason for all their woes.

Some will actually destroy a man’s career, family, and life if they feel slighted by that man. They also file false allegations to do so. Many men have been screwed over by angry or jealous women. We’ve seen it play out both in the news and in our personal lives.

Many women are wonderful people with good attitudes who take responsibility for themselves and are helpful and kind to others. But it’s very difficult to figure out which one is which until you commit significant effort in a relationship, whether business or personal.

For the men out there, are you willing to risk your career and livelihood by being alone in a room with a woman at work (especially if you are a manager}?

Are you going to risk a visit from HR because you complimented a female peer in the office and she got “the ick”, or perhaps because some other woman perceives favoritism?

And everyone gets less than half the pay, so then they need four or five “breadwinners” to have a place to sleep. Each will have three jobs so they can pay for food, taxes, and transportation. It’s anybody’s guess which adults are the parents of any one child in the domicile.

Brilliant!

“I love the uneducated!”

Sometimes people born and raised under authoritarianism still support it even though they think the want and have freedom.

They were trained not to think and just follow when they hear the right “song” like Pavlov’s dogs hearing a bell.

It’s a combination. I saw a video last week about how MAGA tout their larger amyglya (spelling err) as proof they are smarter. The video pointed out that part of the brain regulates fear.

Fear makes one vulnerable to influence by would be protectors. Stoke enough fear and critical thinking is very difficult.

Smarter people learn how to manage the fear and rise above it.

For example, I watch bushcraft and survivalist videos for fun and education, and the prepped survivalists almost universally are preparing to defend their homesteads from literally everyone.

I prefer the ones that cite the Amish and similar communities works. They understand survival comes from both skills and community.

… And this was one of the goals starting with the Reagan revolution, mid 1970’s.

You mean the megacorp farm that actually got $ from the government… Plus tax cuts, and sweetheart trade deals with favored foreign countries? One of those?

They are in the process of lining up the layoffs as soon as those new androids roll off the assembly line.

I really hope most of us liberal leaning people did not laugh. Murder is horrific no matter who the victim.

It is counter to the principles we (should ) live. Sure, no need to go pretend to be particularly impacted, or to suddenly try to find the goodness in him.

Besides, most liberal leaning people are also reasonably smart and know such an act only makes things worse for us, even if our side didn’t do it.

My first thought was it probably was a MAGA follower who did it, and it turned out to be the case.

If you really need to laugh, laugh at MAGA for killing their own.

I am so sorry. I feel it.

That’s some serious rage. I posit that it might be useful to step back a moment, center yourself, and consider that is both perpetuating the hate and doing serious harm to yourself mentally.

I’m not saying the source of the rage is not that serious, only that you risk becoming a mirror image of what you rage against.

I’m also not singling you out. I’m hoping others with similar justified outrage will read this and protect themselves from becoming their hate. Don’t let them take your humanity.

Unfortunately, I don’t see any indication of comprehension of the real problem on the part of the executives. To them, they just had an ooops, we should have waited a bit longer. They aren’t going to rethink the strategy. They’re going to throw money at it until it works. They will probably throw more money than it would have cost to keep those pesky humans, but there’s a more important goal there that they’re not saying out loud.