The POV presented in the article is one POV in Hungary, the country is divided on the issue but mostly does not care beyond a small minority.
People cite the band shouting “Up Hamas, up Hezbollah” on this concert as justification for the ban.
CEARTA
“Is cuma liom sa foc faoi aon gharda!”
(I don’t give a fuck about any cop)
I’ve been listening to these guys for years, and thanks to the Streisand effect, Bob Vylan is now in my playlist too. Death death to the IDF
I’ve never listened to them, but they’re one of my favorite bands.
Edit: Just had a listen. Fuck yeah.
If you listen to them they’ll cement that status.
In the face of creeping, walking, and runaway fascism, they’re Punk as fuck.
They’re putting it on the line and not backing down.
Their conviction reminds me of Pussy Riot.
I saw the movie also called Kneecap about them, it was fun
Never heard of them until I watched a documentary on a plane about them, pretty cool
They have a plane about them? That is impressive.
Dad, how’d you get on Lemmy
Lol, banned from Hungary is a badge of honour. Orban doesn’t get to lecture anyone on anything.
Did the band a favor, stopping them from entering a shithole.
Now do everyone in, and in support of, the Likud party.
Current outgoing Orbán govt is sucking Bibi’s dick, the incoming govt is not going to be any better on this issue, the best you can expect is ignorance from them I imagine.
Ironically, in Hungary the only party in open opposition of Israel is the further-than-Orbán far-right, because they hate Jews and kinda like traditionalist Turks for some reason.
the incoming govt
You got some inside knowledge on Magyar and how his Gvment is expected to be for Hungarians?
He is not taking stances on a lot of issues on purpose, he’s fighting against a propaganda machine that makes Fox look like an amateur. It was able to destroy a previous challenger because he said “Hungary must implement the joint decision of NATO. So, if NATO decides to support Ukraine with weapons, of course [Hungary] will support it.”
He seems to be economically progressive while culturally conservative and strongly euro-atlanticist. He refused to lean into progressive culture war issues, his stance was basically “we will restore the right of assembly that should guarantee people being free to do Pride, but I’m not going to go to it, or support Pride specifically”. On the other hand, he is proposing wealth taxes, very strong anti-corruption measures, more funding for education and healthcare, support for small businesses, stronger worker’s rights and unions, a right to data privacy from both corps and the government, a focus on train transit and other stuff like this for example.
About Israel vs. Palestine, he might support Israel just because that is the traditional Western stance, but I expect he will just abstain from votes there, or rather support whatever the EU consensus is.
Hungary is in a weird place with the Gaza genocide because Budapest has a very large Jewish population compared to a lot of other places, and they have an outsized influence on Hungarian politics as they are traditionally overrepresented in the cultural elite. And as I hear from people there, every Jewish family has the “idiotic bigoted uncle, that would be the weird conspiracy theorist Nazi in a non-Jewish family, but in Jewish family, they will be hardcore Zionists or straight-up settlers. This then makes the Gaza issue complicated and hard to take a side on for most of these people.”
Tnx for your elaborate reaction.
I hope a new Gvment can (slowly) help Hungary in a more " democratic" direction.
Concerning the Jewish families in Budapest, I imagine that similar constituent pressures might be found in several countries. Doesn’t help finding a solution, nor does it attribute to take a clear stance against Bibi as a country.
Though Netanyahu should be send to the ICJ in The Hague, but ofc Israel, USA and others don’t recognise the court.
Though Netanyahu should be send to the ICJ in The Hague, but ofc Israel, USA and others don’t recognise the court.
Neither does Hungary since a month ago by the way
a right to data privacy from both corps and the government
how? are they bringing back non-digital bus passes as an option? like it was before lázár outlawed it
Nope, they want to tear down the DÁP and make something that is auditable.
why, what’s the problem with DÁP? it even allows standard 2FA so you don’t need the app, unlike more “modern” EU countries.
Mostly a general distrust towards the government. There was that time when they harvested everyone’s email addresses for the vaccines, then blasted propaganda on them if you remember.
But I also think DÁP is kinda okay, except there was no reason on having Ügyfélkapu+ then, changing the system twice in as many years. It’s mostly a promise to get voters from Mi Hazánk, and I agree with the basic premise even though I am not a lunatic.
