Legal action groups hail arrest of two soldiers as a 'breakthrough' in accountability efforts for Gaza atrocities
  • SheeEttin@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    6 days ago

    They were not arrested. They were detained, questioned, and released. No justice was had today.

  • Carmakazi@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 days ago

    I know you can’t just detain people arbitrarily in a free country, but it sucks that they’re probably just going to flee back to Israel now that they’ve learned the lesson that they’re not untouchable outside of Israel and the US.

    Reminder that the IDF has published guidelines for its troops on how to evade getting arrested by an ICC member state while traveling abroad, which is definitely something a very moral and humane military does.

    • flandish@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 days ago

      What about this is “arbitrary?”

      These nazis should not be allowed to see the light of day again.

      • Carmakazi@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 days ago

        As in the concept of evidence-based prosecution, jury trials, and reasonable sentencing. Not black-bagging people or assassinating them in the small hours of the night because of a presumed association.

        If that’s how you want to treat Nazis I won’t try to disabuse you of the idea, but you definitely shouldn’t want or expect the State to hand that retribution out.

        EDIT: more contextually, I’d like to believe that if they had the evidence and authority to keep indefinite custody of them, they would have. But they were released. With everything going on in the US it’s easy (at least for me) to forget that that’s how things work in a functioning democracy. Throwing them in a hole based on a whim and against what you have the legal authority to do is what would be arbitrary.

        • flandish@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          6 days ago

          oh fair points - it is arbitrary in that context for sure. These assholes are doing asshole things. Just remember what the german ww2 era nazis did was “legal” then, too. I suspect our current fascists will claim “it’s legal” too. Thanks for your reply.

    • kreskin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 days ago

      silver lining, Israelis will think twice before vacationing in Europe. Let the genociders vacation in Russia where they belong. Israelis are the most unbearably obnoxious tourists.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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    6 days ago

    People are making strange comments. Articles say they are using evidence from these soldiers’ social media. I think these guys are going to prison. I mean, I hope, but I also think so.

      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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        4 days ago

        Drat. I’d read another article that didn’t indicate that they were released. I can’t read every article about the same topic, so my bad for missing that in this one. Thanks for clarifying. Now I’m disappointed.