What is desperately needed by all the open source navigation apps on Android is traffic info. You just can’t plan a half decent route without it. Speed limits info is not enough to know the time a route will take. You need the actural average speed of the roads. Especially on old European roads.
Legally forced sharing from all platforms with onion routing and no ID?
Government road data fed by all those cameras?
Seams a solvable problem if done with privacy in mind not as yet another opportunity for mass surveillance.
Yeah, it’s hard to overstate what a big deal real-time traffic data was/is. And I have to wonder, how many traffic jams are prevented - or at least reduced - by it. How did we manage before Waze et al.? We were just late a lot more.
I (and i suspect most people who cared to know) listened to a local radio station who reported on traffic during high (or abnormal) traffic periods of the day.
If incorrect data gets copied thats quite a good indicator that we are copying google.
If it’s one person, maybe google doesn’t care, but frankly I think we should want to get the data in such a way that google doesn’t even get to make a noise about it.
What is desperately needed by all the open source navigation apps on Android is traffic info. You just can’t plan a half decent route without it. Speed limits info is not enough to know the time a route will take. You need the actural average speed of the roads. Especially on old European roads.
As far as I know HERE WeGo app is based on OSM and also includes life traffic info
But how to do that reliably and with up-to-date info if not invading the privacy of people?
Legally forced sharing from all platforms with onion routing and no ID? Government road data fed by all those cameras? Seams a solvable problem if done with privacy in mind not as yet another opportunity for mass surveillance.
To be fair, we all did just fine before Waze existed.
Nope. I was frequently late when using any number of open sat navs without traffic info. I end up reverting to close Waze or Google Maps.
Yeah, it’s hard to overstate what a big deal real-time traffic data was/is. And I have to wonder, how many traffic jams are prevented - or at least reduced - by it. How did we manage before Waze et al.? We were just late a lot more.
I (and i suspect most people who cared to know) listened to a local radio station who reported on traffic during high (or abnormal) traffic periods of the day.
Can people not scrape other platforms and train their
AIopenstreetmaps on publicly available informationDoubt it. OSM doesn’t allow contributors to rip from Google and alike, scraping would be included in that presumably. Google has the copyright here.
How would Google realistically prevent it from happening slowly organically from real people who happen to look it up
If incorrect data gets copied thats quite a good indicator that we are copying google.
If it’s one person, maybe google doesn’t care, but frankly I think we should want to get the data in such a way that google doesn’t even get to make a noise about it.
Traffic isn’t like that. Sure there are patterns and constants, but there is accidents and road closures, etc.