The moral here is not to do public bathroom hookups in Indonesia.
Imagine being part of a society so backward and morally warped that it would inflict pain on two humans for showing affection to each other. Oh wait my society is like that too.
Yes - much better for the populace to be seeing beatings than… ew …LOVE?!?
WTF? Is the country run by incels?
EDIT: oh, I see - homophobic incels.
Worse, religious fundamentalists.
the manosphere takes many forms, but the basic shape is always the same
The basic shape.
Genocidal homophobic incel western puppets currently imperializing their neighbors, and were the prototype for America’s anticommunist tactics post-1965.
Right. It’s the West’s fault. Probably converted Christians are secretly in charge there. Certainly no blame due for Arabia.
this occurred in Aceh which is a gigantic island, but it’s known as the “crazy muslim conservative island”. They’re locally governed and don’t represent Indonesia as a whole.
Yes, it was the US who worked to isolate the democratically elected leftist government, while supplying arms, intelligence, and diplomatic support to the coup who overthrew the leftist government then murdered anyone insufficiently religious, rightwing, and conservative.
If the book on how this incident was a template for future US policy was too much reading, here’s a wikipedia article.
Arabia hasn’t been closely involved for a long time. Actually, I don’t know if it ever was or the someone like the Mughals were an intermediary, off the top of my head. It’s far away from the Middle East.
Religious conservatives gonna religious conservative. If you go back to ancient history sometimes they were fine with homosexuality, or even expected some amount, but that died out along the way. Because of the European empires, but only because they were more successful, so I wouldn’t blame Europe either.
The really successful religions and eventually empires just happened to be homophobic, so anyone conservative globally is likely to be homophobic.
It’s actually a pretty LGBT friendly region anyway, it’s legal in most of Indonesia, even, but they border Malaysia where gay stuff gets hard prison time.
Edit: As in, SE Asia is a relatively gay-friendly region, for whatever reason. It’s not because social conservatism is out of style.
Indonesia itself is meh. Better than Malaysia, worse than Thailand. And the Muslim part will cane you for it, per the article.
LOL - you are so fucking wrong it’s not even funny.
Do I dare ask about which part?
Indonesia being in any way LGBT friendly is quite incorrect. No, there is no national law outlawing LGBTQ, however, there is a lot of discrimination, prejudice, hate crimes, etc. Yeah, there are some waria there, in some areas, but in general, it’s not a place you would want to be LGBTQ. Source: Lived there for years, have family there.
To clarify, I meant SE Asia as the region, and I was mentally comparing against Africa or the rest of Asia. It’s not the West, but Thailand and Singapore have legal gay marriage now.
Ah, thanks for the clarification, I agree with you on that point!
I can’t find anything about Singapore gay marriage being legal yet.
I mean thats genuinely the least fucked up thing the Indonesian state is doing, look up west papua.
How DARE you be in love and show your happiness towards another person that loves you too! That’s a TERRIBLE thing, didn’t you know???
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Religion is social cancer
Barbarians.
I read that as canned and was confused as to why they were turned into produce.
They were put there by a man,
In a factory downtownnnn
I thought they were fired
Maybe it’s like the smoky tomatoes you can buy in cans?
They spent about on hour on the tower of power
Recently watched https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Act_of_Killing so no longer suprised by anything happening in Indonesia. 💀
The Author’s surname is Oppenheimer. Just found that mildly interesting.
Don’t give trump any ideas.
It’s already in motion, we may not have public caning for a few more years but we will have a whole new ripe population segment to fill our for-profit prison industry!
After that, they will go after interracial marriages under the guise of “stopping foreign terrorists from becoming citizens through marriage” and require all marriage licenses to specify the races of the couple for a registered database. And at this point, I will be yelling at people on forums and social media saying “Don’t you see what they’re doing??” and will be called “reactionary” and “fearmongering” kind of like when I said they were going to end legal abortion and start rounding up non-whites for concentration camps and that they will deploy the military to the cities of political opponents.
Isn’t it already on the chopping block as per p25?
A bit kinky to be caned for showing some love. Seriously though, any religious fundamentalist of any flavor is what makes humans look bad.
this happens so often in Aceh that it’s not even noteworthy at this point
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I think you might want to clarify your conclusion drawn from this, it is currently open to some rather unfortunate interpretation.
People are just being dense turds. That also is pretty clearly differentiating the second statement from the first.
If you’re not sure what he meant, then don’t go into full attack mode like some of these commenters.
Oops yeah
I honestly cannot think of an interpretation of this other than “same sex is not wholesome”.
I wondered where they are because they are usually included in this kind of games. It’s not my mother tongue.
“Wholesome” defined as “relationships I understand and am comfortable with.” Grow the fuck up. The horrors of people being different than you! It’ll destroy your life!
That’s absolutely not what I meant, sorry for offending. See my other comment.
Sorry, but I still don’t understand what you supposedly meant. Your sentence structure and choice of words were perfect English, so there was no indication that there might be a language issue here.
You must feel SO safe and comforted right now 🥰🦄
No I feel misunderstood, but it’s my fault I wasn’t paying attention.
