There’s too many people in this world to say “I’m just going to…”

  • edinbruh@feddit.it
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    3 hours ago

    We can make fuel from air using the Fischer-Tropsch Process. It’s basically the “bad guy reaction” that countries use when the world cuts them out of the oil supply. Like Germany during ww2.

    But for a more hopeful take. Maybe we will be less reliant on gas. And there’s plenty of stuff we can use as fertilizer

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      Synthesizing CH-Chains from air is painfully energy-inefficient. Now that we have good electric motors its smarter to use that energy to power them directly.

      The poor parts of the world with lacking electrical infrastructure who also couldn’t afford ““e-fuels”” to replace gasoline would have a pretty hard transition.

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      52 minutes ago

      As soon as the war is over we have to stop all international ships that have been stuck there, they will otherwise act as super spreaders for invasive ocean species

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    who is “we”? as of now, there’s still oil being extracted and fertilizer being produced, just a bit less of it. if you live in a western country you don’t have to worry too much about it, except higher prices of food and everything that gets transported. if you’re a subsistence farmer in a place like bangladesh then you’re to some degree fucked

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    4 hours ago

    Before it goes down to absolutely nothing, it will have declined for so long that you already know the answer.

    Which, unless you use gas and fertilizer directly, will be “shit’s getting more expensive” - some of which prohibitively so, and alternative products/solutions will be deployed.

    BTW, crops do grow without fertilizer. Which comes from many places btw. May I introduce Western Sahara, a humanitarian and alround ethical desaster not many people talk about.

    And gas? You mean for heating or cooling or simply energy? Same answer, basically.

    And who is “we”? The fediverse? Some country? The whole world?

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    5 hours ago

    I recommend checking out Nate Hagens Youtube channel “The Great Simplification.” He’s been working on this for years and his videos are brilliant. Here’s a few good ones I randomly picked as starting points:

    How might daily life feel in the next decades? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlkAeQ5xdeQ

    Protect the irreversible - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMfzVhTWMDM

    How to play 5D chess - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPctKcmnTvQ

    And his most recent one, 4 things we can’t afford to get wrong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONtWQjRa0GY

    I know recommending videos sucks, who the hell has half an hour to watch a video suggested by an internet stranger? But this guy is the goods in my opinion, he’s worth a listen and I hope at least one person checks him out.

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    5 hours ago

    make it from biogas? we can already synthesise basically every oil-based product from non-fossil means, it’s just more expensive.

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    5 hours ago

    This. We need to prepare for a world where we will be spending the bulk of our income on basic commodities that are currently still cheap.