• yucandu@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Cowbee, Iran shut off the internet because people were protesting for women’s rights. This was years before the Israeli/American bombing campaign. Stop simping for authoritarian regimes. You sound like an American liberal the way you apologize for their actions.

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        1 day ago

        You’re dodging the subject. Israel has been fucking with Iran for decades, that’s not the question. The question is why are you okay with Iran shutting down the internet to stop a women’s rights movement?

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          1 day ago

          I’m okay with Iran shutting down the internet to stop a Mossad-backed color revolution intended to pave the way for the modern war against it. Do you think between the protests and the bombing of Minab elementary school that Israel and the US suddenly decided to get involved, or do you realize that this was a part of the actual plan the entire time?

          The people of Iran should be able to chart their own course, free from the interference of the genocidal US and Israeli attacks.

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      1 day ago

      ran shut off the internet because people were protesting for women’s rights

      Iran shut of internet because of organized attempts at insurrection using women’s rights as an excuse. UK/US want another puppet in place shitting on gold toilets selling out the country cheap.

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        17 hours ago

        Two things can be true. Personally I think women’s rights are a great reason for insurrection.

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          15 hours ago

          They weren’t a reason. They were an excuse.

          What you are actually supporting is invading and subjugating Iran.

          Also, it is amusing how you (plural) keep speaking about women’s rights when as supposedly a valid reason to invade other countries (a la the white supremacist fairy tale of “civilising savages”) while your empire actually died stuff like the overthrow of the socialist government of Afghanistan that did improve women’s rights.

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            13 hours ago

            I never said I supported the invasion, you’re putting words in my mouth. I said women’s liberation is a good reason for people to rise up against their government, which is what an insurrection is. The US invasion of Iran is an act of imperialism intended to subjugate and exploit it, not an insurrection.

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              12 hours ago

              I never said I supported the invasion

              You do support pro-NATO forces subjugating Iran for the benefit of invaders of Iraq and Afghanistan simply because of the pretense of “women’s rights”. The people that you support in this case do not care about women’s rights.

              I said women’s liberation is a good reason for people to rise up against their government, which is what an insurrection is.

              These people claiming that they just want women’s rights doesn’t mean that that is what they actually struggle for.

              You are buying another round of Nayirah testimony/Iraq WMD and other such cases of propaganda.

              What is needed first and foremost right now is liberation from NATO, as it is the most major barrier for improving, as whichever group will try to sabotage the Iranian government - even if it will genuinely want things like women’s rights - they will be used by NATO to just further (re-)subjugate Iran and wooden their living conditions.

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                4 hours ago

                You’re ridiculous. The people I support are the Iranian people themselves, who did in fact protest over women’s rights. Even if the goal of Mossad’s support for the protests was to destabilize Iran in preparation for the US invasion, that does not make the protesters “pro-NATO forces,” nor does it mean women’s rights are nothing but a pretense. While that’s certainly the case for Mossad, the protests were undeniably carried out by the Iranian people themselves to advance the cause of women’s liberation.

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                  3 hours ago

                  The people I support are the Iranian people themselves

                  You (plural) say this, but every time it is some CIA/NED-backed group. And inevitably it turns out that the only reasons you (plural) do so, is because your empire told you that those are the “good ones”.

                  Even if the goal of Mossad’s support for the protests was to destabilize Iran in preparation for the US invasion, that does not make the protesters “pro-NATO forces,”

                  Yes, it does. They are literally used by NATO to maintain or strengthen colonial subjugation of the Global South.

                  nor does it mean women’s rights are nothing but a pretense.

                  For these groups, it is. Their actual goals are not to improve living conditions, but bring their countries under the heel of Washington.

                  While that’s certainly the case for Mossad, the protests were undeniably carried out by the Iranian people themselves to advance the cause of women’s liberation.

                  As in, the low-level members of the group thought that those were the group’s goals?

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                    2 hours ago

                    You (plural)

                    You’re lumping me in with a group I don’t identity with because you’re so dogmatic about your beliefs that you think anyone who contradicts them must be the enemy. I’ve said repeatedly that I don’t support the war and that I oppose imperialism and yet you keep arguing as if I am in support of it. You speak about Iranians as if they are hapless pawns unable to think for themselves, insisting that the only reason they would protest against their government is if foreign intelligence agencies directed them to, which is actually a very colonial and condescending mindset for you to have. For an anti-imperialist, you sure like to dismiss the agency of people who are themselves victims of imperialism.