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      Difference is my inference is based on logic

      Ah yes. Of course.

      yours is based on a bunch of online people repeating the same false talking point, whether it be Destiny, Asmon, or whoever.

      No, it’s based of me seeing a clip of hassan, being mad at his dog, pushing a button of screen and then hearing his dog yelp. Ironically, the first time I really heard about this is because someone made an AI song about it, and that led me to finding more context to it, which I eventually found.

      you lack the intellectual capacity to actually do any research or fact finding yourself and just repeat the slop from these sources.

      I actually laughed while reading this ngl, shit made me crack up. Nothing funnier than some chronically online clown talking down to other people.

      And you’re getting defensive about it as you’re rightfully attacked for not doing the bare minimum of fact checking literally anything.

      That is a fucking WILD statement coming from you, who’s only defense is: “ITS A RIGHT WING TALKING POINT!!! PLEASE STOP SPREADING RIGHT WING TALKING POINTS!!!”. But I get it, it’s convenient. You can just pretend those don’t exist or are all made up and can think of yourself as morally superior, even tho you can just search for the simple terms: “hassan dog” and you will find the original clip lmao. You’d probably defend big yahu himself if he’d just support your political agenda.

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        seeing a clip of hassan

        I know why you spelled his name like that. You’re not being as clever as you think you are.

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          Ah fuck you could’ve just lead with that, then I had remembered who you are and had never bothered to answer lmaoo.

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          Brother, I said shock collars don’t work on breeds like that given that the contacts have trouble making contact.

          Which is factually wrong - there are collars that offer interchangeable contacts so you can adjust it for different dog breeds.

          You’ve got Hasan’s statement, which you obviously discredit entirely as you’ve determined he’s guilty already

          You’d be absolutely correct on that.

          And further, the pushing of this narrative has led to threats against Hasan himself as well as threats to kidnap Kaya.

          Which is obviously wrong, but doesn’t make it a better situation lmao.

          If you trust video evidence infallibly, you probably trust police bodycam as it could never be interpreted or abused to support a narrative counter to what actually occured, right? Right?

          Well, yes. I’m not very familiar with how bodycams are used in america, but if we’re looking at the entire situation and not just a small section that is misrepresented, I would absolutely trust the video evidence. To be fair, these days, it’s a lot harder to tell with AI running rampant, but that’s a non-factor in this case in particular as AI wasn’t that powerful back when this happened.

          I’m not watching a 23 min video tho, sorry.

          But go on, what have you got?

          I mean, I have the original clip. You can find it on youtube aswell. He says: “Kaya, please, just fucking go back”, does something off camera with his hand and then the dog yelps and goes back on his bed. There’s nothing “inconclusive” about it.

          In all seriousness, idk what to tell you. If you want to believe he’s innocent, you do you. I think it’s sad that you excuse animal cruelty just because he’s presumably on your side of the political spectrum, but I gotta tell you that you’re not that far away from those people that excuse epstein and his friends because they like trump.

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              Provides no evidence, just says “lol bro no” as evidence and repeats unproved claims as fact.

              Bro just watch the video? What more evidence do you need or want?

              Can’t read or listen, makes sense.

              Because I’m not wasting 23 minutes of my life watching a completely irrelevant video on bodycam problems in the US? Why would I give a shit about that. That’s not even relevant. You haven’t even responded to any of my answers to the questions you gave lmao. You don’t even care - you just looking for ways to declare me “stupid” in your little world so you don’t have to actually have any arguments.

              No need to engage further, you’ve got nothing to stand on.

              You’ve never had a single leg on the ground in this entire conversation. I told you multiple times: “There’s the original video where X happens” and you never even acknowledged it. It’s actually insane how ignorant you are, pretending you are in the right. Honestly you sound more like a malfunctioning LLM with god complex than a human being ngl.

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                  Holy shit the only thing you’re trying to stand on is that you can’t know for sure what he did off camera? Well what will it fucking be, he pushed a button on the remote to activate the collar. There have even been streams where the remote was in plain view. I found the clip, sadly it’s from xQc who’s a dumbass himself, but all we need is the video, or actually the thumbnail is enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f2LmnmI5sI

                  So we know there’s a remote. Now how far fetched is it he used that remote, which in turn causes the dog yelp.

                  I’ve not called you stupid either,

                  Yes, you have repeatedly called me stupid, or a “nicer variation” of it. At least stand by what you say.

                  I did call you a eurocuck betamale. Which, statistically, still holds and you didn’t refute it so

                  Yes, because it’s the cringiest shit you could’ve said and I didn’t think it relevant to the discussion as it’s yet another ad hominem attack. I also thought this alpha/betamale shit is something andrew tate and these other clowns are spouting, but funny to see it has seen use in your vocabulary aswell.

                  I stood on information, evidence

                  No you didn’t lmao. Not a single shred of evidence.

                  You posted one news about ethan klein, one journalistic opinion without any evidence either and then referenced the violence towards hassan, which I have condemned myself, but doesn’t change anything about the situation itself. There is no evidence here. Now, one might say I don’t have any evidence either, which is certainly true, however, I think that my version of events holds up better if compared to the video. You think the dog just yelped for fun at that point in time?

                  testimony

                  Yeah, one by hassan himself, and the other by ethan klein, who’s just guessing and I’m not sure how he gets to his conclusion, but mine is different.

                  and the same clips you tried to say “just go watch bro.”

                  You have not referenced the clip ONCE. All you have done is called me stupid, referenced completely irrelevant points on the side like my opinion on bodycams and when I said I’m not watching an irrelevant 23 minute video, you called me stupid again. Like, what are you even doing man.

                  Also, how much time have you wasted here?

                  Roughly 30 minutes I’d say, I’m just checking in every now and then during deadlock queue time.

                  This “LLM” is certainly more evidenced and principled than you

                  Well, this LLM is certainly hallucinating like a champ, but that’s the only thing you’re doing well.