Holy shit the only thing you’re trying to stand on is that you can’t know for sure what he did off camera? Well what will it fucking be, he pushed a button on the remote to activate the collar. There have even been streams where the remote was in plain view. I found the clip, sadly it’s from xQc who’s a dumbass himself, but all we need is the video, or actually the thumbnail is enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f2LmnmI5sI
So we know there’s a remote. Now how far fetched is it he used that remote, which in turn causes the dog yelp.
I’ve not called you stupid either,
Yes, you have repeatedly called me stupid, or a “nicer variation” of it. At least stand by what you say.
I did call you a eurocuck betamale. Which, statistically, still holds and you didn’t refute it so
Yes, because it’s the cringiest shit you could’ve said and I didn’t think it relevant to the discussion as it’s yet another ad hominem attack. I also thought this alpha/betamale shit is something andrew tate and these other clowns are spouting, but funny to see it has seen use in your vocabulary aswell.
I stood on information, evidence
No you didn’t lmao. Not a single shred of evidence.
You posted one news about ethan klein, one journalistic opinion without any evidence either and then referenced the violence towards hassan, which I have condemned myself, but doesn’t change anything about the situation itself. There is no evidence here. Now, one might say I don’t have any evidence either, which is certainly true, however, I think that my version of events holds up better if compared to the video. You think the dog just yelped for fun at that point in time?
testimony
Yeah, one by hassan himself, and the other by ethan klein, who’s just guessing and I’m not sure how he gets to his conclusion, but mine is different.
and the same clips you tried to say “just go watch bro.”
You have not referenced the clip ONCE. All you have done is called me stupid, referenced completely irrelevant points on the side like my opinion on bodycams and when I said I’m not watching an irrelevant 23 minute video, you called me stupid again. Like, what are you even doing man.
Also, how much time have you wasted here?
Roughly 30 minutes I’d say, I’m just checking in every now and then during deadlock queue time.
This “LLM” is certainly more evidenced and principled than you
Well, this LLM is certainly hallucinating like a champ, but that’s the only thing you’re doing well.
Literally no. That is what your argument did and still does stand on. Plausibility, not fact. You’ve proven a remote existed.
Okay - so we know there’s a remote. We also know he was reasonably angry at the dog, and we know he reached towards something, then the dog yelped. And you don’t think that’s enough “coincidences” to no longer be a coincidence? Are you just willfully ignorant at this point? Because if that’s the case, any further discussion is indeed futile.
So you admit that I’m correct.
No, I don’t, that’s something you just pulled out of your ass.
You claim things as fact with no evidence
With no direct evidence - yes. There’s a difference between “no direct evidence” and “no evidence at all”. But guess what - if enough coincidences come together, they form evidence. In most murder cases, you never know if the TRULY killed the person, but you have finger prints, you have a lack of an alibi, you have a motive etc. All that comes together as a case. It’s not like if nobody sees you literally putting the knife into the chest, you’re gonna be free.
There’s a lot of things we know happened but aren’t sure. Hell, we don’t know for sure if the 1985 beirut bombing was truly a CIA op, as some later investigations considered. There’s also no actual evidence of trump ACTUALLY fucking kids on epstein island - but (and that’s one of the few things we agree on in this entire discussion) I think that all the coincidences and relations come together and form a pretty conclusive picture.
And I think that in the hassan case, there’s just too much “coincidences” to still be considered coincidence.
My dog has yelped for seeming no reason before. He’s also slipped on a step and yelped before. He’s also gotten his nail stuck on his kennel before and yelped. Again. Inconclusive. We cannot know. But I guess you do with no evidence?
The dog yelping in a vacuum wouldn’t be a problem. Again - it comes together with hassan being angry with his dog AND him reach off screen. That’s what forms the evidence.
You’ve already admitted you’re a bad faith actor. You admitted previously that no matter what Hasan says you will discredit it.
I don’t think I am. I barely knew about the guy before the dog incident, the only time I heard about it was because LTT was building a PC for him lol. But yes, you’re right - I don’t believe the word of the guy because of course he would try to defend himself to save his reputation.
You then try to claim “conclusive” evidence
I think, if we look at the entire situation and how it happened - it’s fairly conclusive.
Then, something would come out, perhaps that the collar is not a shock collar for example
Okay, but where is that “something”. There is no something. He claimed it was a “vibration collar”, which has been debunked already because people found the exact brand of the device he was using, and it’s a shock collar. And there has been no something since.
And attempting to treat claims as verified fact while these remain inconclusive is bad faith.
No, it’s really not. The combination of multiple claims can be evidence, as I’ve stated multiple times by now.
However, tl;dr: I believe the video and the order of events in the video fit to him using a shock collar, you don’t. Any further discussion regarding this topic is just kinda pointless as we’re just going in circles. I will refer to the video, you will say: “Well we don’t know what he did off camera.”. I’m not sure if you are genuinely not sure and you want to give him the benefit of the doubt or you know damn well what he did, but that would make a big supporter of your political agenda look bad.
Whatever you do with this, have a nice rest of the day! :)
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Holy shit the only thing you’re trying to stand on is that you can’t know for sure what he did off camera? Well what will it fucking be, he pushed a button on the remote to activate the collar. There have even been streams where the remote was in plain view. I found the clip, sadly it’s from xQc who’s a dumbass himself, but all we need is the video, or actually the thumbnail is enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f2LmnmI5sI
So we know there’s a remote. Now how far fetched is it he used that remote, which in turn causes the dog yelp.
Yes, you have repeatedly called me stupid, or a “nicer variation” of it. At least stand by what you say.
Yes, because it’s the cringiest shit you could’ve said and I didn’t think it relevant to the discussion as it’s yet another ad hominem attack. I also thought this alpha/betamale shit is something andrew tate and these other clowns are spouting, but funny to see it has seen use in your vocabulary aswell.
No you didn’t lmao. Not a single shred of evidence.
You posted one news about ethan klein, one journalistic opinion without any evidence either and then referenced the violence towards hassan, which I have condemned myself, but doesn’t change anything about the situation itself. There is no evidence here. Now, one might say I don’t have any evidence either, which is certainly true, however, I think that my version of events holds up better if compared to the video. You think the dog just yelped for fun at that point in time?
Yeah, one by hassan himself, and the other by ethan klein, who’s just guessing and I’m not sure how he gets to his conclusion, but mine is different.
You have not referenced the clip ONCE. All you have done is called me stupid, referenced completely irrelevant points on the side like my opinion on bodycams and when I said I’m not watching an irrelevant 23 minute video, you called me stupid again. Like, what are you even doing man.
Roughly 30 minutes I’d say, I’m just checking in every now and then during deadlock queue time.
Well, this LLM is certainly hallucinating like a champ, but that’s the only thing you’re doing well.
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Okay - so we know there’s a remote. We also know he was reasonably angry at the dog, and we know he reached towards something, then the dog yelped. And you don’t think that’s enough “coincidences” to no longer be a coincidence? Are you just willfully ignorant at this point? Because if that’s the case, any further discussion is indeed futile.
No, I don’t, that’s something you just pulled out of your ass.
With no direct evidence - yes. There’s a difference between “no direct evidence” and “no evidence at all”. But guess what - if enough coincidences come together, they form evidence. In most murder cases, you never know if the TRULY killed the person, but you have finger prints, you have a lack of an alibi, you have a motive etc. All that comes together as a case. It’s not like if nobody sees you literally putting the knife into the chest, you’re gonna be free.
There’s a lot of things we know happened but aren’t sure. Hell, we don’t know for sure if the 1985 beirut bombing was truly a CIA op, as some later investigations considered. There’s also no actual evidence of trump ACTUALLY fucking kids on epstein island - but (and that’s one of the few things we agree on in this entire discussion) I think that all the coincidences and relations come together and form a pretty conclusive picture.
And I think that in the hassan case, there’s just too much “coincidences” to still be considered coincidence.
The dog yelping in a vacuum wouldn’t be a problem. Again - it comes together with hassan being angry with his dog AND him reach off screen. That’s what forms the evidence.
I don’t think I am. I barely knew about the guy before the dog incident, the only time I heard about it was because LTT was building a PC for him lol. But yes, you’re right - I don’t believe the word of the guy because of course he would try to defend himself to save his reputation.
I think, if we look at the entire situation and how it happened - it’s fairly conclusive.
Okay, but where is that “something”. There is no something. He claimed it was a “vibration collar”, which has been debunked already because people found the exact brand of the device he was using, and it’s a shock collar. And there has been no something since.
No, it’s really not. The combination of multiple claims can be evidence, as I’ve stated multiple times by now.
However, tl;dr: I believe the video and the order of events in the video fit to him using a shock collar, you don’t. Any further discussion regarding this topic is just kinda pointless as we’re just going in circles. I will refer to the video, you will say: “Well we don’t know what he did off camera.”. I’m not sure if you are genuinely not sure and you want to give him the benefit of the doubt or you know damn well what he did, but that would make a big supporter of your political agenda look bad.
Whatever you do with this, have a nice rest of the day! :)
Bro, you’re on the same side as Ethan “pedo_troll” Klein.
You’re not a good guy here.
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