We don’t exclude them because of politics; like, because we don’t like their policy on women’s rights.
We exclude them because they belligerently attacked their neighbour and reject their neighbour’s right to exist peacefully.
That’s different. It’s less “we don’t like that kid so he can’t play in our sandbox” and more “he attacked that other kid with a rock so he can’t come over because he’s a fucking criminal”.
What about Iran? So hypocritical lol. It’s really the neighbor that did Russia in, attacking a country halfway around the world is totally fine. Because they are not white, pray to the wrong god and speak funny.
I’m so tired of everyone complaining about fascist MAGA. Complain more about fascist liberals.
Russia bad lol… hosts “soccer” world cup in the fucking fascist USA. Fucking priceless grumble grumble
Because contests should not be political. In the 2026 Winter Olympics, a Ukrainian athlete was removed for putting the names of dead Ukrainian soldiers on his helmet.
Someone would have to determine whether the Geneva Conventions were violated. I think it’s better for simply the best athletes to compete, not the best athletes from countries which behave in an approved way. Some believe that the US didn’t follow the Geneva Convention when it attacked Venezuelan ships supposedly carrying drugs. Yet, the US hosted the World Cup.
Global consensus would be best. A united league of nations to discuss it would work otherwise. But, barring all of that, I’ll use my own judgement. Isreal has committed warcrimes. Russia has committed warcrimes. I’m ok with them being shunned from global sports and entertainment. And, if it is determined that my country is actively committing warcrimes, then we should be shunned too.
Some believe the US violated international law when it attacked Venezuelan boats supposedly carrying drugs. There hasn’t been any investigation. Remember FiFA President Infantino let Balogun play after Trump called. Perhaps some countries have influence. Wouldn’t it be simpler to just let the best players compete?
Yes! Let’s make them a country and include them in the Olympics and the UN. We already had borders drawn up but I’m sure they’d want to bargain for a more equitable and contiguous space given their shit-bag neighbour.
International sports events are INTERNATIONAL, if you play so far outside the rules as Israel is doing, you don’t deserve to participate in international events as a country.
Of course by that standard we shouldn’t have participation from Russia and USA either.
As an American, I agree, we dont deserve to be invited to international events. Ending the current war criminality starts with agreeing theres a problem in the first place.
You brought up a problem. There is no means of determining what actions disqualify a country. To make it simple, just let all countries participate in contests and keep politics out.
There are obviously means of determining which actions disqualify a country. We know that because the fucking Russians were fucking disqualified. There were criteria, they met them, and they got banned.
That’s what a ban is. That’s how basic shit works, troll. JFC.
There’s no means of determining what actions disqualify a country?
You really think Russia was banned from IOC participation for no clear reason and that it wasn’t explained at all? There are some very simple means you can employ to determine what actions disqualified them.
Then there would have to be a written list of disqualifying actions. Of course, this could differ depending on the contest. There are myriads of contests, beauty, music, movies, hotdog eating, chess etc. I would just make it simple and remove politics from all contests.
Don’t pretend like you’d read such a list. You just said you had no way to figure out why a country would be banned from an international competition just one comment ago. If you couldn’t even think of reading an official explanation, we’re supposed to believe that a list that would be published in the same place would result in you being better informed?
It’s pretty dead simple to ban a country from competition for being warmongering and genocidal. What would be complicated?
What does that have to do with you not knowing that when countries get banned from international competitions, it’s easy to find out exactly why, and that having such policies is pretty simple?
Soccer is a sport. No country should be excluded based on politics including Russia.
We don’t exclude them because of politics; like, because we don’t like their policy on women’s rights.
We exclude them because they belligerently attacked their neighbour and reject their neighbour’s right to exist peacefully.
That’s different. It’s less “we don’t like that kid so he can’t play in our sandbox” and more “he attacked that other kid with a rock so he can’t come over because he’s a fucking criminal”.
What about attacking Venezuelan boats supposedly carrying drugs?
What about Iran? So hypocritical lol. It’s really the neighbor that did Russia in, attacking a country halfway around the world is totally fine. Because they are not white, pray to the wrong god and speak funny.
I’m so tired of everyone complaining about fascist MAGA. Complain more about fascist liberals.
Russia bad lol… hosts “soccer” world cup in the fucking fascist USA. Fucking priceless grumble grumble
So should Iran be banned from participating in sports? They’ve attacked multiple countries. Iran also rejects Israel’s right to exist peacefully.
Why not? Why allow a country committing war crimes to participate on the global sports or entertainment stage like everything is normal?
Why allow Israel to participate and the USA to host the fucking thing?
Both are committing war crimes right now. But I guess pointing out blatant hypocrisy is rage baiting too lol.
Panthera is a rage-bait troll, don’t mind them
I assumed so, but I like to put up a defense sometimes, because otherwise people only see their nonsensical points.
Because contests should not be political. In the 2026 Winter Olympics, a Ukrainian athlete was removed for putting the names of dead Ukrainian soldiers on his helmet.
That isn’t equivalent because Ukraine did not commit warcrimes. Why shouldn’t a country committing warcrimes be blocked?
Who would determine if war crimes were committed?
Geneva conventions.
Stop sea-lioning.
Someone would have to determine whether the Geneva Conventions were violated. I think it’s better for simply the best athletes to compete, not the best athletes from countries which behave in an approved way. Some believe that the US didn’t follow the Geneva Convention when it attacked Venezuelan ships supposedly carrying drugs. Yet, the US hosted the World Cup.
Global consensus would be best. A united league of nations to discuss it would work otherwise. But, barring all of that, I’ll use my own judgement. Isreal has committed warcrimes. Russia has committed warcrimes. I’m ok with them being shunned from global sports and entertainment. And, if it is determined that my country is actively committing warcrimes, then we should be shunned too.
Some believe the US violated international law when it attacked Venezuelan boats supposedly carrying drugs. There hasn’t been any investigation. Remember FiFA President Infantino let Balogun play after Trump called. Perhaps some countries have influence. Wouldn’t it be simpler to just let the best players compete?
I think it’s simpler not to let the thieving, cheating Russians compete. Someone has to pay the price for Putin.
Let’s include Palestine then.
Yes! Let’s make them a country and include them in the Olympics and the UN. We already had borders drawn up but I’m sure they’d want to bargain for a more equitable and contiguous space given their shit-bag neighbour.
The problem is that Palestine isn’t a country.
And, pray tell, why aren’t they a country?
You’re so close.
Israel won’t allow it.
Cool.
Therefore…
International sports events are INTERNATIONAL, if you play so far outside the rules as Israel is doing, you don’t deserve to participate in international events as a country.
Of course by that standard we shouldn’t have participation from Russia and USA either.
As an American, I agree, we dont deserve to be invited to international events. Ending the current war criminality starts with agreeing theres a problem in the first place.
You brought up a problem. There is no means of determining what actions disqualify a country. To make it simple, just let all countries participate in contests and keep politics out.
There are obviously means of determining which actions disqualify a country. We know that because the fucking Russians were fucking disqualified. There were criteria, they met them, and they got banned.
That’s what a ban is. That’s how basic shit works, troll. JFC.
There’s no means of determining what actions disqualify a country?
You really think Russia was banned from IOC participation for no clear reason and that it wasn’t explained at all? There are some very simple means you can employ to determine what actions disqualified them.
Then there would have to be a written list of disqualifying actions. Of course, this could differ depending on the contest. There are myriads of contests, beauty, music, movies, hotdog eating, chess etc. I would just make it simple and remove politics from all contests.
Don’t pretend like you’d read such a list. You just said you had no way to figure out why a country would be banned from an international competition just one comment ago. If you couldn’t even think of reading an official explanation, we’re supposed to believe that a list that would be published in the same place would result in you being better informed?
It’s pretty dead simple to ban a country from competition for being warmongering and genocidal. What would be complicated?
Proving it. Also, some countries have influence. Is there anyone investigating the US over attacking Venezuelan boats supposedly carrying drugs?
What does that have to do with you not knowing that when countries get banned from international competitions, it’s easy to find out exactly why, and that having such policies is pretty simple?
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